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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Just as an aside &ndash; Earls Court is in fact not full of Australians and Kiwis. After living there for two years I think I've heard such an accent maybe once on the street, and maybe a dozen times in the local pubs. Yet despite this I keep on getting…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:29:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Immigrants are self selected, to some extent, of course. It takes a certain type of person to move across the world. </p><p>But Governments ultimately make decisions about what people will cross their borders, and in NZ's case if you don't make the requisite points (some of which are rather arbitrary)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:52:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						<p>Paul, we do seem to be talking past each other a bit here.<br />Enjoy your Sunday.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:14:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>I think you're deliberately misunderstanding my meaning &ndash; it doesn't matter whether it's legal or not &ndash; it's the person leaving who chooses to go in the first place &ndash; they select themselves, while the people they leave behind don't.</p><p>In fact I'd actually argue the opposite &ndash; it's much…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:05:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						I trust you're not being obtuse with your comparison of Mexicans crossing the boarder and Kiwis going on an OE. Even though one is sanctioned by the two states involved and the other is expressly forbidden, negating the issue of 'self-selection', as this is the function of the states involved.…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:56:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Most people who move country's today are self selected &ndash; they've decided to get up and move the people they left back at home didn't &ndash; that's 'self selection' &ndash; sure if they do it with a gun to their head it's not &ndash; but largely the kiwi who decides…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:40:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						<p>@ Paul.<br />IMHO that is a load of self serving bollocks.<br />Immigrants aren't self selecting, we have an immigration department for that, and before that we had the White NZ Policy.<br />Europe was in midst of social/political/economic upheaval with a hell of a lot more push factors than pull factors.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:02:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p>"Oooh are you from New Zealand? I know this whole flat full of guys and they've all got that bird tattooed on them, what's it called? You must meet them."</p><p>That was eons ago, and to this day I count myself fortunate that I never did meet those guys.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:22:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>@Jack &ndash; interestingly enough, I was determined to have the reverse experience in London. I spent over 2 years hanging out with no-one other than Poms. </p><p>Interestingly, I had horrible culture shock and was quite miserable until I started hanging out with a few other antipodeans who "spoke my language".…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:23:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Well given that it seems most UK bound Kiwis do congregate on London, in waves based on age/life experience I don't find it that odd or lacking that we tend to clump together.  In my case I don't so much hang out with people from NZ because we share common…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:53:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Remember that immigrants anywhere are self selected &ndash; they're the bunch of people who managed to get off their arses and move to another country &ndash; that's not easy, it takes a bigger world view, money, gumption ....they're often the best and brightest (of where ever they came from compared…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:59:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						When I came back to NZ after seven years in the UK (Cambridge, mining the lodes of Silicon Fen), I was talking to a recruiter about a job.  "It's at Telstraclear &ndash; that's a phone company over here," she said.  "Yes, I know, I'm from Wellington," I replied.  "Sorry, you're…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:46:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote>I'm in Canberra, physically, of course. But I know few Australians, and fewer still Canberrans; my friends and counterparts are from everywhere but here. My headspace doesn't reflect my physicalspace. I don't think there is anything unique about feeling young (in my case) and on the wind. This discussion and…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:59:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>@Sacha &ndash; yes, still on holiday. Go back to my young 'uns next monday. I was waiting for Sofie and her Mr to come back from the UK so we could all go for a drinkie poos,</blockquote> Whilst I have a moment :) Will be back soon but you will…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:34:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						@Sacha &ndash; yes, still on holiday. Go back to my young 'uns next monday. I was waiting for Sofie and her Mr to come back from the UK so we could all go for a drinkie poos, but I think they may be a while yet. Do you fancy one…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:50:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>And add me too to the group who is grateful for PA's view on the parts of NZ I miss the most.</p><p>And nice explanation, George. Very similar to my own feelings on the matter.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:26:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Kia ora
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:33:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Te Ao Nui. In the wider world, in the big world. Te Ao as 'the whole'. My Te Reo Maori is limited, so that's my interpretation.</p><p>I changed my location for a couple of reasons. The first is practical; I'll leave Canberra at some time in the next few months,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:32:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote>One thing EVERYONE who visits the US should do &ndash; that copy of the green form they staple in your passport &ndash; the airline's supposed to take it when you check in to leave &ndash; sometimes they forget &ndash; if they do the INS thinks you're still in the country…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:09:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I thought "Big" wasn't enough, though "Wide" was my first choice.  Still, it's George's phrase to explain.  You still on holidays?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:53:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						More the Big World, Sacha. And if we're to be concise about it, I believe George may be trying to say The Big Bad and Wide World. Or that might just be me.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:44:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Paul, flex that reo.</p><p>The Great World, if I'm not mistaken.</p><p>Very skillful, I thought &ndash; though I see your reservation.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:21:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						George, Te Ao Nui? Canberra? Huh?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:13:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ditto. The frequency of my posts is a clue to my sense of dislocation.</p></blockquote><p>And me too. Along with Skype and a few other technologies and portals, PA/PAS allows me to keep a virtual foot on the right side of the Tasman.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:50:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I think you call the British Embassy and explain your quandary &ndash; they're not trying to catch you out &ndash; it's more a matter of 'sometimes mistakes are made'
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:56:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote>One thing EVERYONE who visits the US should do &ndash; that copy of the green form they staple in your passport &ndash; the airline's supposed to take it when you check in to leave &ndash; sometimes they forget &ndash; if they do the INS thinks you're still in the country…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:52:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Blake Monkley</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Welcome home, Mr Monkley.<br />Now about that mango in your luggage..</p></blockquote><p>Cheers.  </p><p>The mango was in my stomach...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:44:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Mir</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Nice one Gervais!<br />I moved home last week after four years, the only negative; change the right-hand rule when driving.</p></blockquote><p>My better half told me today that apparently NZ is the only country in the world that persists with that particular rule. Another thing that should be changed. A common…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:49:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Welcome home, Mr Monkley.<br />Now about that mango in your luggage..</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:40:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Blake Monkley</title>
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						<p>Nice one Gervais! </p><p>I moved home last week after four years, the only negative; change the right-hand rule when driving.</p>
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				<title>David Mir</title>
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						Me too, although I've generally fallen into the "long time lurker" category....
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote>I am really grateful to Russell and Public Address as you allow me a window on home, or at least that liberal, coffee drinking, free flowing ideas side of New Zealand that I will always think of as home no matter where in the world I may happen to be.…</blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>I am really grateful to Russell and Public Address as you allow me a window on home, or at least that liberal, coffee drinking, free flowing ideas side of New Zealand that I will always think of as home no matter where in the world I may happen to be.</blockquote>…
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				<title>GLaird</title>
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						<p>I'm a kiwi ex-pat too having lived in Sydney for the last 3.5 years, 8 years in and out of London and a year in NY during that time since I've been away.   </p><p>I now have two children and would come home tomorrow if I could find a job to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:49:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote>The amount of public works that went into Sydney before the Olympics was staggering- yet NZers bitched and moaned and couldn't get their shit together enough to build ONE decent stadium and instead settled on trying to make a silk purse of the sow's ear that is Eden Park. It…</blockquote>
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				<title>David Mir</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Perhaps it's function of the later colonisation, I don't exactly know, but I'm grateful that though there remain injustices needing remedy, NZ's committed to remedies whereas not all Australians are.</p></blockquote><p>I think it's a pretty complex combination of factors- later colonisation, differences between the respective indigenous cultures themselves and their…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>David, our experiences aren't too different.</p><blockquote><p>but the longer I've been here the less appeal it holds- the endless urban sprawl and astronomical property prices in particular are something of a put-off.</p></blockquote><p>Agreed. We've bought and now feel a little trapped into the market movements that constantly recalibrate our "wealth".…</p>
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				<title>David Mir</title>
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						I've been in Sydney for 7 years and am about to head home to NZ for a few months for some further study. Part of the reason is expediency- the availability of student allowance and the exchange rate mean I come out a few grand ahead of where I'd be…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:00:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						<p>Agreed Paul.</p><p>When I lived in Tokyo, 'home' was both Auckland and Tokyo &ndash; I'd refer to Auckland as home while in Tokyo and Tokyo as home when visiting Auckland or out of the country.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:14:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						"Home" is a funny word &ndash; for the longest time it referred to where I wasn't &ndash; living in the US Dunedin was home, after we moved back Oakland was home for a while, now I think I'm back to Dunedin being home again
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:44:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						Oooh, thanks for the pointer re AirNZ's direct route to Vancouver. I went to Hawaii a few years ago &ndash; great place, once you're away from the worst beaches &ndash; when they were doing just two fingerprints. Fuck being fingerprinted like a crim &ndash; although I'm dying to visit SF…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:28:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						Count me in as someone who had massive culture shock initially when I lived in London. However, I had also made a very determined point not to hang out with other antipodeans &ndash; expedited when the only two people I knew buggered off to Belgium &ndash; which was kind of…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:22:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						I would love to come home.  You can measure the depth of my desire to come home by the fact that I would even settle for Palmerston North (yes, I have lived there, twice, so I know what I am saying).  We are slowly settling here, making friends (a difficult…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sept 2009 15:03:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Well of course in those days there were maybe 7-8 airlines flying from the US to NZ (AirNZ, Qantas, United, Continental, something French, AA I think, PanAm, ...) lots of options
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sept 2009 11:15:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>used to be if you were going home to visit for the (Northern ) summer you could get the earliest flight to Honolulu, spend the day at the beach, then grab an onward flight to AKL at midnight</p></blockquote><p>For my purposes, the flight that used to go direct (I think?)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sept 2009 10:53:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						<p>That's good news.</p><p>Love the naughty step in Buffalo story.  We had R's dad decide he really wanted to buy the awful rental car we bounced along in...because it had manual window winder-uppers.  Driving my gadget geek husband up the wall :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sept 2009 10:18:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Snort! Very funny Amy &ndash; just had R's parents staying from the East Coast and that dynamic is so true for so many family relationships.</p></blockquote><p>Hah, I haven't even mentioned the bit about how by the time we got to Buffalo I was threatening to stop the car and put…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sept 2009 09:08:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And a bit less aware of my weak points.</p></blockquote><p>Snort!  Very funny Amy &ndash; just had R's parents staying from the East Coast and that dynamic is so true for so many family relationships.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sept 2009 08:43:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Yeah I miss the time when all the flights stopped somewhere in the Pacific on the way &ndash; used to be if you were going home to visit for the (Northern ) summer you could get the earliest flight to Honolulu, spend the day at the beach, then grab an…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sept 2009 07:56:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The crunch came, of course, at the border. All three of us, including the two US citizens had to go into the customs office and wait for me to be processed.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, that was a seriously unwelcome surprise last time my parents came to visit and I went to pick…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sept 2009 03:36:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Well I had an interesting experience yesterday &ndash; arrived in Auckland a bit late from Hong Kong, the plane had left late and took a couple of attempts to touch down (wheee!) </p><p>Returning from Taiwan I was carrying a couple of commercially made gift boxes from my Taiwanese Client and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sept 2009 18:10:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I love him and I speak the langauge fairly well, so, why not? Hopefully I'll graduate and then fly out with him in April.</p></blockquote><p>Absolutely. Other things can wait, love is more important.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sept 2009 17:21:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Nik C</title>
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						I'll be moving to France next year, because my boyfriend's French and he wants to finish his degree. I wasn't planning to go overseas for a while, maybe in a couple of years, but I love him and I speak the langauge fairly well, so, why not? Hopefully I'll graduate…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sept 2009 17:11:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Nik C</title>
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						I'll be moving to France next year, because my boyfriend's French and he wants to finish his degree. I wasn't planning to go overseas for a while, maybe in a couple of years, but I love him and I speak the langauge fairly well, so, why not? Hopefully I'll graduate…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sept 2009 17:11:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>New Zealand's reaction to this similar incident seemed to be "get over it", but it was seen in a particularly bad light in Australia.</p></blockquote><p>What makes Abraham's case worse is that he's an NZ citizen. Bad enough to do it to visitors, but doing it to people who have gone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 14:58:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's pretty fucking disgusting, actually, and more than a little depressing that we've managed to stoop to that level.</p></blockquote><p>If it was just a one off, I'd give them grace. But it has happened so many times it isn't funny. New Zealand's reaction to <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/writer-calls-immigration-racist-after-search-2742194" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this similar incident</a> seemed to be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 14:36:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And this seems the best place for a home thought from abroad, but why the hell did I have to go to Melbourne to see an excellent Len Lye show at the ACMI?</p></blockquote><p>It was a huge pleasure to see all that work in a coherent whole. They really should…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 14:23:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have never been more grateful to have two passports, and get a 'welcome home' at both ends.</p></blockquote><p>You're lucky. My unfortunate workmate went across to Australia for a week, to celebrate the end of Ramadan, and <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10600019" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">now he's in the paper</a> after NZ Customs gave him a "welcome home" that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 13:03:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Those customs requirements for NZers going to America are flat out nutty. I have never been more grateful to have two passports, and get a 'welcome home' at both ends...
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 11:11:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>One thing EVERYONE who visits the US should do &ndash; that copy of the green form they staple in your passport &ndash; the airline's supposed to take it when you check in to leave &ndash; sometimes they forget &ndash; if they do the INS thinks you're still in the country…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 11:06:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Actually the West Coast US Immigration experience isn't really that bad &ndash; yes they treat you like cattle &ndash; largely because they never have enough people on duty &ndash; and yes they're a bit surly (but then we probably are too after 12 hours of airNZ) &ndash; a smile goes…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 10:20:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						And this seems the best place for a home thought from abroad, but why the hell did I have to go to Melbourne to see an excellent <a href="http://www.acmi.net.au/len_lye.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Len Lye show at the ACMI</a>? (The Dali show was a load of pants...)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 10:12:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It all ended on good terms but it must have been pretty weird to be on the receiving end of all that.</p></blockquote><p>And pretty fucking obnoxious too.  Weird as this may sound, on a previous trip to Australia I found myself defending Helen Clark because, you know, she might have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sept 2009 10:08:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Actually the West Coast US Immigration experience isn't really that bad &ndash; yes they treat you like cattle &ndash; largely because they never have enough people on duty &ndash; and yes they're a bit surly (but then we probably are too after 12 hours of airNZ) &ndash; a smile goes…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sept 2009 19:29:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Thank Christ for Air NZ's direct Vancouver-Auckand</p></blockquote><p>It is wonderful. We flew into Vancouver last month. Stepped off the plane, straight though customs and immigration and then sat in the sun for half an hour waiting for our ride. The crunch came, of course, at the border. All three of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sept 2009 18:40:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<p><em>...the thing about the NZ papers is that they cover everything...</em></p><p>I missed that so much when I was out of the country! It makes it sound 1) as though we care about what happens in our communities, and 2) as if our problems are pretty small. And I like…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sept 2009 11:03:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Your first entry is the LA airport hell experience</p></blockquote><p>Thank Christ for Air NZ's direct Vancouver-Auckand route, I say (there's a reason they marketed it on the basis of avoiding US Customs and Immigration).</p><p>Even if one enters through San Fran or Honolulu there's the animosity from Customs, plus the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sept 2009 09:09:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think it's more urban/rural. Go to any biggish city in the US and you'll find likeminded people, even in the south. Go to any exurb or small town and you'll be surprised at how many rednecks you'll find.</p></blockquote><p>There's definitely that here.  The Eastside (the Microsoft side) is seen…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sept 2009 09:08:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>she had a broad Texan accent &ndash; said "y'all" &ndash; I'd assumed that people didn't really talk that way, it was some sort of code they used on TV to indicate a corrupt southern sheriff .... but they do ....</p></blockquote><p>Oh Paul. You could have just come to my house…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sept 2009 07:26:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I think we can safely rule out Crawford.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sept 2009 00:10:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						I do remember a student party at my flat in Wellington back in 2003 where the crowd was most Kiwi, with a bunch of Germans and 3-4 Americans &ndash; those of the latter who were up to discuss politics ended up surrounded by drunks furiously attacking Bush etc.  It all…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sept 2009 23:45:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Is anywhere in Texas cool?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sept 2009 23:35:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I don't know about Austin &ndash; my only experience was a one day business trip that we finished by midday &ndash; we were stuck in suits in a rental with a failing AC &ndash; the only places we could find that were vaguely cold were the state capitol building and…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sept 2009 23:28:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>I myself tend to see America in perspective of the red-blue state divide.</p><p>Most of us would be right at home in, say, San Fran or Portland or Seattle or Austin. And my brother's pro-Obama fiancée hails from Chicago.</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I must admit I had a lot of "oh that's how it works" sort after I first moved to the US &ndash; a lot if it was trying to figure how much of my expectations of how things would work were based on TV/movies &ndash; for example accents were something…
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						<p>Deep Red,</p><p>I asked R what his experience is, and he doesn't think it is personal or that big picture.  He thinks it is more about people's direct experience with the States.  Your first entry is the LA airport hell experience &ndash; or if you haven't been, you just know…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						deep: Well because of my lingering accent I get a bit of this &ndash; I'd suggest it's probably the first &ndash; then again that may just be the circles I wander in
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						It's a (misplaced, in my opinion) belief that New Zealand is a paragon of peace and environmentalism, a nuclear-free paradise, that gives license to criticise others. It bespeaks a significant lack of self-awareness, and a failure to critically reflect on New Zealand's place in the world. That is too much…
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<p>Good question, DeepRed.</p><p>I got the sense, in Dunedin, that the Brits (at least the white ones) continue to be welcomed with open arms, while the Americans (and by extension anyone perceived as American) are to be snarled at.</p><p>This was during the early-to-middle part of the Iraq War, which…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Is anti-Americanism in NZ mostly of the Abbie Hoffman "America is John Wayne" variety, or the Colonel Blimp "Britain should never have lost the Americas" variety? I'd personally lean towards the latter, even if the Richard Prebbles of this world think it's the former.</p><p>There's a third group that thinks…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fortunately for me, my man is not from the west coast and has never said "like, you know".</p></blockquote><p>Mine is from Houston, and says 'like, you know' almost constantly (as do I). I'm not sure how this happened.</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						When we moved back to NZ my 11 yr old daughter announced that she wanted to lose her american accent before school started (in about 2 weeks) &ndash; she was a bit scared about the new place and didn't want to stand out &ndash; of course it drew people to…
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>'white' migrant with an 'American' accent</p></blockquote><p>According to the very young woman who sold my husband a pair of jeans earlier this year his accent was "sooo excellent". She was desperately trying to sound as if she was a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnVE3UTIgEM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">valley girl</a>. Fortunately for me, my man is not from the…</p>
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				<title>Kimberley Verburg</title>
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						<p>@dc_red I came to NZ when I was 6 and trust me, I'm under no illusions about the "friendly" welcome immigrants can enjoy.</p><p>Even so, NZ generally feels friendlier than a lot of places. Quite a few fresh off the boat Kiwis say hello to their new London neighbours, only…</p>
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						<blockquote><p>TBH, he really hasn't had too bad a time. He is quietly-spoken and self-deprecating, though, so tends to be a 'good fit' in NZ social situations.</p></blockquote><p>Mine is the same.  Although I know he cringes when he ends up in group conversations that go on about 'bloody Americans'.  It's quite…</p>
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				<title>James Bremner</title>
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						NZ is a truly great place, so beautiful and that beauty is so accessible.  While I am happy and settled where I am, every time I come back to NZ I think “Why the hell don’t I live here?”  I am a boatie type person, so the accessibility of the…
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				<title>Tony Parker</title>
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						<blockquote><p>At best, they're prepared to stay for the first few years, but as soon as it's time for school they speed home to NZ or to Aus.</p></blockquote><p>As far as this goes the expats are going to have to look more closely as this government slowly but systematically destroys public…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ask a . . . 'white' migrant with an 'American' accent (real or perceived), just how friendly the place is, and I'm not convinced you'd get many positive responses.</p></blockquote><p>If they project a trailer-trash hillbillyish manner they'll go over a treat with local fundies, to whom Americans are one notch…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What about the snarls... elsewhere in the country, though?</p></blockquote><p>TBH, he really hasn't had too bad a time. He is quietly-spoken and self-deprecating, though, so tends to be a 'good fit' in NZ social situations. Not that that's any comfort to people who are louder talkers or more openly confident…</p>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<p>What about the snarls (and constant reminders of negative &ndash; rather than exotic &ndash; foreignness) elsewhere in the country, though? </p><p>I'm happy to report no such negativity in Canada &ndash; people are generally just happy if you can speak and understand English (or French, as geographically appropriate).</p>
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						<blockquote><p>a 'white' migrant with an 'American' accent (real or perceived), just how friendly the place is</p></blockquote><p>If our experience is typical, any person with those qualities will be very popular with teenagers in south Auckland. Of course, they will be asked constantly if they knew Tupac or hung out in…</p>
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						<p>Your Views bleaters complaining about "Crimz having two many rightz in Nieu Zild!" would do well from reading Keith's latest post on the prison population. Their love of tax cuts is ill-matched with their love of incarceration.</p><blockquote><p>I miss the friendly culture, the laidback life.</p></blockquote><p>I'll give you laidback, but…</p>
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						As far as I'm concerned, NZ faces a much more destructive threat from "suburban mediocrity"/Kath-and-Kim-ism than nuclear warheads or hordes of AK47-toting riflemen. And sadly it seems to be actively encouraged by the usual suspects. To cut a long story short, "We don't care if you can build a space…
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Yeah as i said the thing about the NZ papers is that they cover everything and loudly- largely I think because they feel they have to to compete with the immediacy of TV. </p><p>It didn't used to be like that: My father-in-law looking to move his family from the US…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Until I started working with a definite majority of British (that is, British nationals or people raised here) I didn't really encounter the class system. That has changed now, and it is pretty dammed weird I must say. I pretty glad that as a foreigner I seem to get put…
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				<title>Kimberley Verburg</title>
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						<p>Oh yeah, those council estates. I look them and wonder which human beings decided to put other human beings in *there*. Jesus.</p><p>I actually live on a part council/ex-council estate in Bethnal Green, one of the most deprived areas in the UK, yadda yadda, but at least it's not a…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						I didn’t intend to downplay the differences between NZ and the UK – they are many and varied – but being in London is different – the city is as Ben says, huge, which means that most of us seem to be able to live within the inner parts of…
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The main way London differs from both NZ and Ozzie cities is simply the hugeness of it.</p></blockquote><p>there are other ways..the endless grey smack filled council estates come to mind.</p><p>And a week after I arrived in London I was talking to a NZ friend's UK boyfriend. He worked at…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Whenever I visited London I always envied the kiwis I knew there &ndash; living in the SF Bay Area (late 80s, 90s) we were so effectively cut off from NZ that we'd meet perhaps one kiwi a year &ndash; usually someone manning a ski lift at Tahoe &ndash; meeting actual…
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						<blockquote><p>all that hersheys chocolate that is around. yuck!</p></blockquote><p>I believe they call it "chocolate flavored candy" or "chocolate candy" now, because it's so poor it's not even still chocolate.</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>Since we're talking health, I've got to say the Australian system is very very good. Lots of it is free at the point of use, but higher income earners almost all have medical insurance (or pay an additional tax). </p><p>When my family last seriously considered relocating back to NZ, our…</p>
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						<p>We did find one place that did this amazing mexican chocolate mocha &ndash; sadly it seems to have closed shop though.  Divine!</p><p>I'm not a milk person, but I hear it is not so good here. Probably a big part of the problem.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Mocha? Not surprised you have troubles! That's not just a coffee and milk problem, but a chocolate problem too. Borders on insoluble.
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						We have a wee espresso maker, that does OK, but just getting a good mocha while out for the man is difficult &ndash; all that hersheys chocolate that is around.  yuck!
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>R misses Auckland coffee &ndash; way better than here!</p></blockquote><p>Have you tried making it yourself? Then you can spread the good word to guests ;-)</p>
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				<title>Sarah Horth</title>
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						<p>Well I'm half an expat as we have spent half the past 2 years in the States and half at home (chasing summer).  I lived in Tokyo for a long time before that.</p><p>We love NZ and consider it home, but the work here is good for my hubby R.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>It hasn’t felt like a different country in the slightest, nor required any substantial adjustments that I can think of, except to slightly modify my phone voice at work, so people don’t call me Iain instead of Ben.</p></blockquote><p>I had the same problem in Oz, except they were inclined to…</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>It hasn’t felt like a different country in the slightest, nor required any substantial adjustments that I can think of, except to slightly modify my phone voice at work, so people don’t call me Iain instead of Ben.</blockquote> Lucky lucky you, Ben. When I went to the UK,almost 23 years…
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						If it gets to the point where I need to move to Newcastle it will probably be a good time to head back home
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				<title>Kimberley Verburg</title>
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						@Paul Campbell That's good advice. But it's harder to set deadlines without kids. :) Most of the London Kiwis I know who've left did so because they wanted to have kids. As much as they love London, no one wants to raise their kids there. At best, they're prepared to…
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well having now spent a couple of years in London I have to say that from the start it has not felt substantially different from back home.</p></blockquote><p>try moving to Newcastle....</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Well having now spent a couple of years in London I have to say that from the start it has not felt substantially different from back home. There are all sorts of possible reasons for that, the huge number of expats in London, many close long term NZ friends amongst…
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>But surely quantum physicists just have to pull the old superposition trick and they can be everywhere at once .....</p><p>which great because it means he can live and work in different places .... until you find out about all the other wives ....</p><p><br />BTW &ndash; the trick to moving…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sept 2009 00:56:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and most of the ex-pats in Australia are dicks</p></blockquote><p>Not true, some of my best buddies blah, blah....</p><p>But I'm also of the opinion that moving to Australia, at least to Melbourne, Brissie or Sydney is more like moving from the lower half of the North Island to the Northern…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>underappreciated and threatened with destruction</p></blockquote><p>Deliberately undermined by its own Minister, at that. What with recent climate 'negotiations', you have to wonder if they put him in charge of stuff they just don't like.</p>
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				<title>Kimberley Verburg</title>
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						<p>A Dutch Kiwi here. I originally took off because Dutch unis were better and far cheaper. Also, I was interested in European languages. Which lead to Paris. Which was a little too close to the black hole of London and I got sucked in.</p><p>I'm glad I left, I didn't…</p>
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				<title>Daniel Kalderimis</title>
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						<p>I also felt, and feel, a sense of community through the NZ blog-asphora.  Public Address in particular was an important means to stay in touch with the parts of NZ I enjoyed and missed the most.   Eloquence, curiosity, intelligence, passion; it's all out there somewhere.</p><p>My thought on the negative…</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>I'm not sure that this really addresses the question... but nevermind!</p><p>Firstly, I feel a lot greater sense of community through the blogs, and of course this site. I feel like I still have not only a stake but a voice in NZ's national conversation.</p><p>But the other side of…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Well mine host has expeditiously deleted all references... and again, apologies.
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						Nah... it's not really a problem, Paul.  These days I'm a long way down on google, so I'm not all that discoverable, or memorable, evidently.
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Aaaaggghhhh! Paul!! You outed me!!! So far I've kept my family name off blogs about the place.</p></blockquote><p>I'm genuinely sorry Deborah. I should have known better. Perhaps a admin pixie can delete the unecessary details from my comment?</p>
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				<title>Jan Farr</title>
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						To half quote Rob Muldoon, it seems that many of the expats living in Australia and expressing Views, may have raised the IQ level of at least this country.
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						A friend from Sydney offers <a href="http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2137/91183244.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this image</a> of the dust storm ....
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Deborah [ ] often blogs about moments of enculturation.</p></blockquote><p>Aaaaggghhhh!  Paul!!  You outed me!!!  So far I've kept my family name off blogs about the place.</p><p>Oh well....  anyone who was curious and had two spare braincells and a modicum of google-fu could have worked it out anyway.  So I'm…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote>I'm sick to death of the narrowly defined debates about the relative merits of New Zealand versus Australia or some other place. We left because we wanted a change. We got it. But it's not lower taxes or better wages that keeps us in Sydney. It's a far more complex…</blockquote>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Well &ndash; I'm screwed, probably permanently &ndash; in NZ everyone thinks I'm american, in the US they think I'm english or occasionally south african or australian &ndash; there's nowhere on the planet I don't have an accent &ndash; I'm old enough now that will probably always be true</p><p>Well nowhere…</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>OTOH, some of those Your Views people really don't even want to know what's going on. They're just angry people.</p></blockquote><p>My quick scan-through impression of the Your Views posters was that most of the ex-pats in Asia, the US and Europe seem pretty cool (left for work, travel etc) and…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>my continuing 'merkin accent</p></blockquote><p>I don't think I ever really collected one of those (except the kind you use for the service industry over there, just to make yourself understood). But I grew up in a house with two accents, and now live in a house with two accents, so…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>When I come back to NZ, I know that my UK experience will be looked upon highly</p></blockquote><p>By this do you mean the work that you were able to do in the UK?  I say this just because I come across people who seem to believe that simply because their…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I read PA (and Russell on usenet before that) while I lived overseas &ndash; for that  connection to back home &ndash; on line news papers seemed to be hard to read &ndash; not enough context for a lot of stories (I did listen to nat radio on line for a…
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>I moved to Sydney from Wellington seven years ago. I meant to be back in two years. I'd happily come back to NZ, very happily. My family regularly contemplates a return, almost every year or so. </p><p>So what keeps us away? Well, my wife has a great job at the…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>... never (usually) makes it to the front page of the news websites, these expats focus on the bad news and miss out on the cool, ordinary stuff that makes living in New Zealand so awesome. No wonder they don't like the idea of returning.</p></blockquote><p>I'm quite often told by…</p>
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				<title>Nick Melchior</title>
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						I've just moved from Melbourne to Singapore and I can't see myself coming back to NZ to live pretty much ever. It certainly tempting at times, especially since having children a few years ago, but having living over half my life outside of NZ since first leaving aged 10 months,…
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				<title>AnthonyJT</title>
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						Come February, I'll been away from New Zealand for 2 years. It doesn't seem like that long and I don't know for sure when I'll be coming back. That's not to say i don't miss NZ &ndash; there are something I really miss and others that I'm glad I'm distant…
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						A lot of the Your Views comments seem to be from expats whose image of contemporary New Zealand is almost entirely informed by what they've read in the news. So it's all child abuse and murders and W(h)anganui. Because "Wow! Isn't the waterfront really beautiful today!" or "Hey, there's a…
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						Expatriate New Zealanders are seeking refuge at home – but some of those quoted in <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10598701" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Herald's story</a> (and in <a href="http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/9/21/expat-what-are-your-thoughts-returning-home/?c_id=1501154&amp;objectid=10598716" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Your Views</a>) would surely pay excess baggage for the chips on their shoulders. So where's the Public Address diaspora at? Have things changed since we ran <strong>The Expat Files</strong> <a href="http://publicaddress.net/default,1945.sm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">1</a>, <a href="http://publicaddress.net/default,1948.sm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2</a> and…
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