Just went into my local and there they were – labelled Boston Buns,18 cms across, white coconut icing and a handful of sultanas. Packaged in a plastic case for $3.09. I don't ever recall seeing them there before.

So we took one…

Let's hear for it for cooking, variants, & nomenclature!

Y'know, I get the same vibe from this thread. The conversational equivalent of comfort food.

Pity it's going straight to my thighs.

Yep. As thick as the icing. A really good sweet & fat hit-

Y'know, I get the same vibe from this thread. The conversational equivalent of comfort food.

Yep. As thick as the icing. A really good…

A boston bun is round, iced with coconut icing (in pink or white) and contains raisins. If the fruit is missing it's just an iced bun.

see now, that's a sally lunn bun

And no, when I was growing up (and with the last one I ate, 3 years ago) Boston buns didnt have fruit.

A boston bun is round, iced with coconut icing (in pink or white) and contains raisins. If the fruit is missing it's just an iced…

I've lived in Dunedin since 1993, and it was only this year (from my girlfriend, who has lived here since the 60s) that I heard of this alternative.

Segg? You mean Segg? We call it both, but I do refuse to give up on the 'Segg Head' joke.

I'm with…

Admittedly I've been a veggo most of my life so my meat product vocabulary isn't as wide as it might be.

luncheon sausage

Wait. I have always called it luncheon sausage. What are we Dorklanders meant to call it?

luncheon sausage

I've lived in Dunedin since 1993, and it was only this year (from my girlfriend, who has lived here since the 60s) that I heard of this alternative.

Certainly, some of these regional differences are stronger than others.

Boston bun was used for large roundish flattish buns with coconut-sprinkled pink icing in my Christchurch childhood.

Those things, white or pink, as sold at the PNBHS prefects' room canteen (who also sold cassette copies of new albums as I recall....I can't recall anyone thinking or understanding it was wrong!)…

Sally Lunn is unheard of in Melbourne and possibly all Australia? They are called Boston Buns, and only come in white, never pink.

On arriving in NZ.... Boston Bun was unheard of, and Sally Lunn was the appropriate…

The NZ Sally Lunn bears little resemblance to the Sally Lunn bun as produced by the Sally Lunn bakery in Bath.

Cheers,
Brent.

Sally Lunn was what the South Islanders called them, like the crib/bach divide.

No, definitely the other way around. According to me (grew up in Auckland) and Dr Hay, linked to by Amy.

Isn't that a Boston bun?

The pink-ness? Or the icing+coconut-ness?

About 16cm in diameter, to the best of my recollection, with pink icing, detailed with the regulation dessicated coconut.

Isn't that a Boston bun?

Sally Lunn is one of those terms that breaks the country,

I think it might divide us from the rest of the world, as well. I can't tell with cursory Googling whether Australia is with us on this one, but most of the world seems to use the term to…

I once saw a Sally Lung – at least that was what it was labelled as – in a cake shop window in Petone. About 16cm in diameter, to the best of my recollection, with pink icing, detailed with the regulation dessicated coconut.

Sally Lunn is one of those terms…

I once saw a Sally Lung – at least that was what it was labelled as – in a cake shop window in Petone.

Ah, yes, eggcorns are almost as important a part of the trad NZ cake shop as depressing plain-looking slices that you can't imagine anyone ever buying.…

Depending on the icing flavour/decor, you get either a raspberry bun or a Sally Lunn.

I once saw a Sally Lung – at least that was what it was labelled as – in a cake shop window in Petone. About 16cm in diameter, to the best of my recollection,…

I call paninis "pretentious toastie pies"

Ah, see, to me a toastie pie is distinguished by having sealed edges.
A panino (which is what I ask for, and have yet to be corrected fwiw) is non-sealed and has ridgy bits and ideally contains at least one vaguely Italian item. A…

[punching holes in hamburger buns]

When you think about it, you could pretty much do doughnuts in the same way. Even easier, non-ringed doughnuts. Just add icing!

We already have that! Depending on the icing flavour/decor, you get either a raspberry bun or a Sally Lunn.

Or are those becoming…

It's not okay to beat a flounder

Nor flound a beater (see discussion thread on Bill Ralston and the It's Not OK campaign)

I…

Candidates: brill
turbot
Okarito freshrun flounders
Ellesmere flounders

-we could have the best kind of cook-off!

Raymond – Waimate or Oamaru? (These are family places, and quite a few further south as well...)

one of the BEST flatfish in Aotearoa-NZ

Diplomatically put.

If anyone would like me to judge a competition for best flatfish (culinary division) do let me know.

it's very possible Andrew (my younger brother) could've been in Fleur's-
we (family) go there a lot (he's black-haired, brown-skinned, and relatively tall – his wife is also striking, as are their kids)
BUT- Andrew doesnt…

Call me a freak if you must, but I find koalas almost as creepy as clowns.

Arboreal wombats. Mating call like a two-stroke engine. My former mother-in-law was peed on by a koala she was cradling for one of those tacky souvenir shots. Something I never had the courage to…

I blame this on living in an area suspiciously high in Dutch cafes.

But is there anywhere you can go for an English on a Friday night?

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SE_qJ_hkg

The History of Doughnuts. (The story about the sea captain making the hole by sticking his Oliebollen on his wheel sounds like purest I-don't-think-so.)

Also, Wikipedia on what to do with doughnut holes.

I blame this on living in…

Kyle, stop trying to lead me into 'history of the doughnut' pedantry, it's not fair.

I think we need clicky-links.

I get weirdly cranky about pseudo-bagels

That is not weird *at all*. The pseudo-bagel is most annoying.

I hate 'Cajun chicken salad'. For one thing, Cajuns don't eat salad, and for another, sprinkling Masterfoods Cajun spice (which is, admittedly, perfectly serviceable in making other Cajun foods) on chicken does not…

I get weirdly cranky about pseudo-bagels — which are not made by punching holes in the middle of burger buns, folks.

Now that's classy.

When you think about it, you could pretty much do doughnuts in the same way. Even easier, non-ringed doughnuts. Just add icing!

"Toastie pies", ffs – ghod we can be such an effete little nation at times.

I'll admit to finding panini quite a useful and well descriptive moniker. As well as the only foodstuff I find edible in certain New Zealand cafes, which haven't stuck with the old nor transitioned to…

Good on you. You might make your point even more effectively if armed with a solid jaffle iron.

Holy fnark... not only an offensive weapon, but you can imagine you're chowing down on something cute and furry after. (Call me a freak if you must, but I find koalas almost…

I call paninis "pretentious toastie pies" and the next service drone who gets snotty about it, will also learn my preferred sobriquet for food service drones with attiude.

Good on you. You might make your point even more effectively if armed with a solid jaffle iron.

"Toastie pies", ffs -…

I call paninis "pretentious toastie pies"

I was impressed that the Victoria Park New World has many solid bacon, egg and cheese toasted sammies (presumably for their 3am crowd) rather than the panini I fully expected to see. Unconscious snobbery confounded, and tasty to boot.

The thing about panini is that my server was actually right.

Possibly, but that's not really the point. I call paninis "pretentious toastie pies" and the next service drone who gets snotty about it, will also learn my preferred sobriquet for food service drones with attiude.

I'm with you on fillet (bet you that was McDonald's doing), but I want to be there next time you say the word "sachet".

Well indeed. We take words from other languages wholesale, and some we pronounce 'properly' (or close to it), others we completely massacre.

For people to be…

I was always tempted write down "St. Louis" and ask her to pronounce it, and then tell her it should be pronounced "Sain' Lou-ee", because it's named after the King of France.

I'm with you on fillet (bet you that was McDonald's doing), but I want to be there next…

And once I got corrected asking for a panino. "It's actually panini, sir."

Conversely, I get annoyed if I pronounce 'fillet', and say the T, and people correct me. My ex used to do it, and she was American. I was always tempted write down "St. Louis" and ask her…

And once I got corrected asking for a panino. "It's actually panini, sir."

But us simple kiwis struggle to say parmesan – imagine what we'd do with parmigiano.

I meant taste wise!

The tiramisu is italian product and Kapiti are just the agent – wouldn't be surprised if their managers stumbled on it while visiting your homeland.

Oh I recall it being totally genuine – as you'd expect from any product Kapiti decided to be involved with.

Kapiti makes a cheese called Parmesan. Parmesan is to Parmigiano as the sound of my gargling is to Pavarotti's rendition of Libiamo.

Are you sure it's not some sort of ersatz cream?

Oh I recall it being totally genuine – as you'd expect from any product Kapiti decided to be involved with. Can't remember the Italian brand name and Kapiti don't seem to have a website.

Another welcome development: the overdue installation of a platform for wheelchair users at the foot of the East stand. Among those enjoying it on the day was Erin, a 16 year-old with cerebral palsy who keeps a blog.

Yes, good on the organisers – and thanks for linking to [[http://brokendreamscrushedhearts.blogspot.com/2009/01/memories-to-last-lifetime-big-day-out.html|Erin's…

It seemed to do just fine in this case. Yum.

I was referring to its tendency to become lethal. Are you sure it's not some sort of ersatz cream?

(I'm asking primarily because I love using the word "ersatz").

only think about people who use wheelchairs when they are forced to

And only think about wheelchairs when they hear the word "disabled".

Great idea Steven

I reckon a bit of DIY barrier removal is a great idea.

mascarpone doesn't travel very well, does it?

It seemed to do just fine in this case. Yum.

And waua! steven crawford! I have a disabled family member who is about to start fundraising!

Can I recommend the Italian brand of tiramisu that Kapiti cheeses imports for some supermarkets.

Huh, I don't know, mascarpone doesn't travel very well, does it?

mmmmhhh, sachertorte

It has been done before. In my defense, never post when hungry – everything sounds like food.

genuine ladyfingers

Oh, my mother is very particular in her definition of those. Not only from a particular tiny town in her ancestral land, but from a particular bakery. We used to buy them in huge boxes of about – I don't know, perhaps 500 hundred biscuits each? When she…

tiramisu......yummmmm

Ah! I see. But isn't it a bit of a stretch? I might as well say Sacha reminds me of sachertorte.

mmmmhhh, sachertorte... damn!

Odd, that…

I did wonder if Tiso was a contrived contraction of my favourite dessert.. :)

You know, even now that I've been unmasked... I really want to know what this dessert is. I can't work it out.

Our consensus was that we can finally reveal that Giovanni is in fact John Teesdale, formerly of Te Awamutu

And to think that I let you into my home...

So, what sort of an idiot do you have to be to dress your three-year-old in his best and newest shirt and then let him eat dark red cherries?

A very smart idiot who had convinced the rest of the world that s/he has potentially fatal allergies to laundry power…

a contrived contraction

Actually make that a mis-spelled one too..

the restrictions of a Te Awamutu education (your choices: liking rubgy, or league

Or sowing the seeds of Split Enz..

Our consensus was that we can finally reveal that Giovanni is in fact John Teesdale, formerly of Te Awamutu, backed by a writing…

So, what sort of an idiot do you have to be to dress your three-year-old in his best and newest shirt and then let him eat dark red cherries?

ahhh, that fashion mused kicked in again – "hey that shirt is way too new, way too 'nice', way to conformist…

Today I trundled around the music shops,…

My mum and I went halves on a kilo of hugely expensive Otago cherries just before Christmas. Worth every penny

They were one of the joys of my trip back to NZ at Xmas. Now I need to find an excuse to come back during Bluff season....

One of the geat pleasures of summer.

One…

I mean, if you're going to be smug about your big trip and what you're going to see, that's what you deserve, surely.

Strangely Normal are unique, and I love 'em.

Ditto. They've done me a couple of shirts for the TV show and hopefully there'll be more (yes, there's a wee bit of waiting going on).

It was only this Christmas (crazy pre-Xmas Swanndri sale) that I officially retired the Strangely Normal…

Must.edit.

I was sad to see Magazzino gone. It always an early port of call on any trip to AK, if only to see what…

...snakebit puncture .... nail out of the tyre

Nitpick: that wasn't a snakebite; a snakebite puncture is when you hit something hard enough with tyre pressure low enough that the rim "grounds out" as the tyre herniates slightly to each side, so you get two small parallel cuts in the…

I left work last night, and planned out an epic cycle from town to the favoured supermarket to get barbeque things. Just past Red Baron Motorcycles on Great North Road I started to hear that loud rhythmic hissing that told me I'd just gotten a snakebite…

And Russell, what happened to Magazzino?

I don't really know, but clearly they couldn't pay their bills last year.

It's sad: I've been buying magazines from Stuart and Megan for a long time.

Simon Grigg, as is his way, has blogged his current trip home to Auckland.

As ever, he sees things we don't.

That's an awesome post.

As ever, he sees things we don't.

Actually, no. While not the complete disaster predicted, she was still bloody annoying with moments of "not bad" tossed in occasionally.

Different strokes for different folks, and all that, but I found Rose Tyler's presence in the last series infinitely more annoying than anything Catherine Tate did. Sorry, but I…

And good to know there's someone else who has seen the Hartnell series (not counting theose new-fangled…

Actually, no. While not the complete disaster predicted, she was still bloody annoying with moments of "not bad" tossed in occasionally.

No, I thought she was better than that — you're weighed down with all that fanboy baggage!

And I was moved by her final episode.

She's bloody great.

Actually, no. While not the complete disaster predicted, she was still bloody annoying with moments of "not bad" tossed in occasionally. Her finest moment IMHO was her last episode, when she — oops, you may not have watched that one yet. (I've been a weekly watcher since…

"What's the time?"

"Two-thirty."

"In the morning?"

"I guess."

"Just one more?"

"Do we have to do anything today?"

"Not really."…

Oh, poo, I wanted Paterson Joseph.

I really thought he was out of the running for that when the BBC announced a second series of Survivors — which I'm pretty meh-some about, but was apparently a solid and consistent ratings performer for BBC One.

And can I note the irony…

Randomly picking a thread to derail, we have a new Doctor.

Oh, poo, I wanted Paterson Joseph.

But I'll get over it, just like I got over it when Monk lost Sharona.

But I do recommend an article in this morning's Press, by David

My feelings towards Aaronovitch are somewhat tainted by this piece from a couple of weeks back bathed in half truths and revisionism in an attempt to justify what is still unjustifiable.

Made it to Macau for a day visit. Beautiful place

sounds like you avoided the airport, a shocker....

I will reflect further on my respective responses to the invasion

Meh... I'm short of sympathy. I used to know a Palestinian chap — and his Israeli boyfriend — quite well, and he said that from his perspective the whole fucking mess is a never-ending chess game with millions of…

I think Giovanni made the right decision not to join such a poorly thought out protest.

I'm not saying it was, nor that you can police all behaviour, although you should certainly strive to discipline some. I'd just like to know, from somebody who was there (I know better than…

I actually like living in a pluralistic country where vandalism of Jewish and Muslim houses of worship and graves is rare enough to still be shocking and held in general contempt.

I agree, Craig, that it is wonderful we live in a land of such relative peace and respect (ignoring…

Maybe Father Burns was trying to point out that Rabin was murdered by an Israeli ultra-nationalist, and that the point went over everyone's heads.

And maybe someone needs to audit the parish accounts for suspiciously large and frequent orders of communion wine. Buggered if I know, but I'm not really…

I'd like to think that regardless of your politics or religious views, you don't desecrate houses of worship, graves or memorials to the dead.

Actually, I don't give much of a fuck about that, compared to the desecration of the living.

The obvious confusion of the gesture has not escaped me. I'm only asking whether that gesture is really the thing most deserving of disgust.

I don't really expect anyone else to give a shit, but as a devout Catholic (and one who lives in a country remarkably free of sectarian…

Maybe Father Burns was trying to point out that Rabin was murdered by an Israeli ultra-nationalist, and that the point went over everyone's heads.

Paint on a monument? A little less so, IMO.

And now that I think of it, when mosques around Auckland were subjected to that kind of bullshit — and worse — in the wake of the London bombings it was taken a little more seriously.

I don't for the moment think…

I'm only asking whether that gesture is really the thing most deserving of disgust.

Oh, there's plenty of disgust to go around. Being angry at an idiot close to home does not render me unable of being angrier at armed criminals far from home. But even with that sense of…

What does that comparison even mean? Shouldn't you rather ask yourself to what extent, if any, spilling red paint on the monument of a politician who was murdered for urging the signing of the Oslo piece accords does anything to advance the cause of peace?

The obvious confusion of the…

I'd like to think that regardless of your politics or religious views, you don't desecrate houses of worship, graves or memorials to the dead.

If Gerald Burns doesn't understand that, then I suggest he should be sent on retreat for a refresher course in Catholic teaching on the subject.…

Paint on a monument? A little less so, IMO.

What does that comparison even mean? Shouldn't you rather ask yourself to what extent, if any, spilling red paint on the monument of a politician who was murdered for urging the signing of the Oslo piece accords does anything to advance…

I don't think you necessarily have to be an "Israel backer" to say this is sick and fucked up.

Oh, please.
This is "sick and fucked up". Paint on a monument? A little less so, IMO.

An Israel support group has condemned a Catholic priest who splattered red paint over a memorial toformer Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

He did what?!

The thing is, it's nearly two days since the announcement, there's a war on in the Middle East, and it's stillthe top story on the Guardian website.

I take your point, but at least The Guardian (whether you agree with the editorial line or not) actually has serious and substantive…

And on the derailing theme, Ron Asheton is dead, damn :(

There's a thread for the paying of respects here ...

Randomly picking a thread to derail...

And on the derailing theme, Ron Asheton is dead, damn :(

Randomly picking a thread to derail, we have a new Doctor.

Who looks pretty much how I'd imagine David Tennant's scruffy younger brother would.

David Tennant's scruffy and more dangerous-to-know younger brother.

Randomly picking a thread to derail, we have a new Doctor.

Who looks pretty much how I'd imagine David Tennant's scruffy younger brother would.

The thing is, it's nearly two days since the announcement, there's a war on in the Middle East, and it's still the top story on the…

Randomly picking a thread to derail, we have a new Doctor.

Who looks pretty much how I'd imagine David Tennant's scruffy younger brother would.

possibly, but its still a cool idea. rewriting history from a fixed point on like 1995's Richard III.

Not so coolly realised in the 1993 clunker Super Mario Brothers , which featured a parallel universe where dinosaurs had won the evolutionary race.

Shamelessly stolen from Fascisti su Marte!

possibly, but its still a cool idea. rewriting history from a fixed point on like 1995's Richard III.
They should do it as a scifi thiller, not a comedy.
The nazis made such good villains and it would make a break from all the…

in 1945 the nazis went to the moon,
in 2018 they're coming back

If the day turns cloudy, I do recommend going to The Curious Case of Benjamin…

(I promptly posted this…

I spent Friday at Mahurangi, which considering its proximity to Auckland is just indescribably good – felt like a proper holiday rather than a daytrip. Hopefully will be there again on Sunday, weather permitting.…

How long can your nose bleed before you should start getting worried?

Trust that it's either stopped all by itself by now, or that you've sought help.

Whatever, that line sounds scarily like highly quotable famous last words.

@craig – depends on what sort of blood (arterial or venal – what colour is it – bright red or dark?), what sort of flow (drip, drip, drip or run, run, run), and what you're doing about it. I…

Raymond – Macs are really good – there are some…

a hot, hot
Dunedin day

surely you jest? Haven't been to Dunedin for, oh, about a decade, but I fell in love with it and would move in a trice but for the bonechilling winters. And all the family etc up north. But still....