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				<title>linger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Didn't Martin Phillipps write a song about it?</p></blockquote><p>I'm sure he's written several on that theme, but "Don't Be ... Memory" off <em>Submarine Bells</em> is the one that immediately springs to mind.</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>No worries Damian... just a touch of expat angst, you know, the forgotten family member and all that. Didn't Martin Phillipps write a song about it?</p><p>And if you can't remember the launch party it must have been a good one :-)</p><blockquote><p>The social unacceptability of ain't</p></blockquote><p>Oh, bring back…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:49:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p>InternationalObserver wrote :</p><blockquote><p>Jolisa, aren't I right in thinking you were ...</p><p>Am I right in thinking ...?<br /></evenmorepedant></p></blockquote><p>Earlier this week I had exactly this same discussion with my son when he came across the word "amn't" in a sentence like "I'm right, amn't I ?".  We both agreed that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:12:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						Sounds to me like you pwnz those shows, Damian.
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Russell kicked it off on November 14, and I suspect Chad and Debra were there that first week, too</p></blockquote><p>Yeah and this is what I was trying to remember.  I could see from the archives that you were there a couple of weeks later, what I was trying (and failing)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:17:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Jolisa, aren't I right I thinking you were there JUST after the founding? </pedant></p></blockquote><p>Yes, you aren't  :-) Well, I suppose it depends how pedanty we get about dates and locations.  <a href="http://www.publicaddress.net/default,185.sm#post185" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">My first post</a> came 2 weeks after <a href="http://www.publicaddress.net/default,137.sm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">yours</a>, you wildly punctual creature. But I was posting from the other side…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:51:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Perplexed 81st not gettin this at all...</p></blockquote><p>Oh. Maybe I should have just stuck with <em>Welcome back, Damian</em> too. My humour <em>is</em> obscure. Very. Clearly I have too much time on my hands. Maybe it's Mortgage Rage?</p><p>I'm just stepping out for some cigarettes. I may be some time.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:48:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						<p>Wha   ?</p><p>Perplexed 81st not gettin this at all...</p><p>Welcome back...I know that feeling about half finished ideas...</p><p>"It's been a while since my last blog......" </p><p>Makes me feel almost <em>confessional</em>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:56:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Bugger all this pedantry business. Welcome back, Damian &ndash; here's to having more time to do what you want to do. Isn't that what life should be about, after all?
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Am" works if I'm genuinely asking a question. "Aren't" suggests I already know the answer... ;)</p></blockquote><p>Well in that case you can display true smugness (as I often do) by using long sentences with superfluous wordage and double negatives:</p><blockquote><p>Jolisa, am I not wrong in thinking that you didn't join PAS…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:47:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						Yeah yeah.  I originally wrote "am", then changed it to "aren't."  Because I reckon "aren't" has the better tone in this instance.  "Am" works if I'm genuinely asking a question.  "Aren't" suggests I already know the answer... ;)
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:15:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>aherm...</p><p>i believe the correct in-joke is </pendant></p><p></in-joke-established-with-pasystem></pendant></p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<p>How about then:</p><p>Jolisa, are I not wrong in thinking you were...</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>A move to Auckland (and to the only babe this blogger needs)...</blockquote>Oh the vanity! (Did you used to work in the media?) Do you think she actually <em>reads</em> your blog?<blockquote>Jolisa, aren't I right in thinking you were ...</blockquote>Am I right in thinking ...? (not __Jolisa, are not I right in…
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Nah. They just have lower standards.</p></blockquote><p>I think it's just that everyone is drunk, all the time, trying to forget about the fact they live in Wellington.  At least in winter, cos I have to admit this summer did rock.</p><blockquote><p>[Clears throat significantly]. Although I guess my ninja-like stealth posting…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:20:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fun fact: Google for "it's been a while since my last post" gives over 36,000 hits.</p></blockquote><p>What's more, you linguists and apostrophe fiends will be pleased to note, if you remove the apostrophe and use "its" instead of "it's"... the count is lower, not higher (less than 1000, in fact)....…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:12:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And to be fair, it's been six years.</p></blockquote><p>Five and a half? Feels like ten, but.</p><blockquote><p>I am, if memory serves, the only remaining founding member of Public Address other than Russell.</p></blockquote><p>[Clears throat significantly].  Although I guess my ninja-like stealth posting gives me that cloak of invisibility. I did…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Nah. They just have lower standards.</p></blockquote><p>That's for damn sure. That's why we can write posts about wanting to sleep with Damian Christie and even our closest friends can't tell if we're kidding or not.</p>
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				<title>Sara Bee</title>
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						<blockquote>If I did Russell would end up acting like Martin Phillips when he became the only original Chill, and we don't want that.</blockquote> We certainly don't...
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Nah. They just have lower standards</p></blockquote><p>i think it's more that wellington is an urban jungle.</p><p>some like to use the vines to get about.</p><p>personally, i'm a little more pedestrian.</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Nah. They just have lower standards.</p></blockquote><p>And double, but hey, at least we <em>have</em> standards.</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Martin Phillips</p></blockquote><p>Phillipps with three ps for the 13, 373rd time...</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've always had a vague impression that Wellingtonians in general are always "gettin' some". There's something in the air, perhaps.</p></blockquote><p>Nah. They just have lower standards.</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Also, wouldn't it be cool to run a blog where every single post was an apology for not updating more frequently?</p></blockquote><p>only if it was farrar.</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As much as I enjoyed certain aspects of living in Wellington, I have to say the opportunities in Auckland are such that the streets are paved, if not with gold (especially not at current prices), then pork bellies, or milk powder, or some tangible commodity.</p></blockquote><p>Meanwhile, I'm moving to Wellington…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but i don't have any togs.</p></blockquote><p>OK, I'm withdrawing my vote for PAS for that best blog thinger. TMI.</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but i don't have any togs.</p></blockquote><p>This thread is giving me the impression that you might not need any...</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We'll be in the hot tub.</p></blockquote><p>but i don't have any togs.</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It will be a different proposition by July, no doubt.</p></blockquote><p>We'll be in the hot tub.</p>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						The former. Actually, my impression is probably based on the favourable social atmosphere in and around downtown Wellington. It probably helps that my last 3 visits were on glorious summer days. It will be a different proposition by July, no doubt.
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>There's something in the air, perhaps.</blockquote>Something in the air causing the some-gettin' or something in the air giving you that impression?
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						I've always had a vague impression that Wellingtonians in general are always "gettin' some". There's something in the air, perhaps.
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						AS if I ever would :)
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>llew's lying.</p><p>@d. glad to hear you're settling back in. i think we can now refer to you as a public address/blogger "lifer". there at the beginning, there at the end. :)</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And to be fair, it's been six years.</p></blockquote><p>What? SInce you got a babe? You should've joined the Wellingtonista. We get lots.</p>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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