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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>Maybe I have a less optimistic view of human nature, but I think people's prejudice is more likely to come out in the privacy of a polling booth, than when someone calls them on the phone and says something along the lines of "Excuse me Sir, but as a registered…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:16:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The polls also show that Obama would be the better candidate to beat off likely Republican nominee John McCain</p></blockquote><p>Were these the same polls they used to predict the outcome in New Hampshire?</p><p>Maybe I have a less optimistic view of human nature, but I think people's prejudice is more…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:21:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think that's worth remembering. I think if Obama gets the nod ahead of Clinton, McCain will win, and only because he's white.</p></blockquote><p><a href="I think that&#039;s worth remembering. I think if Obama gets the nod ahead of Clinton, McCain will win, and only because he&#039;s white.">Dunno</a> ...</p><blockquote><p>The Democrats are…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:22:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						John McCain's constant appearences on The Daily Show made me go "oh, he's pretty cool &ndash; for a Republican" until I found out about his abortion stance.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:10:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						I don't know how many of you saw the Daily Show the other night when he <a href="http://www.eveningtalk.com/2008/02/27/madeline-albright-on-the-daily-show/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">interviewed Madeline Albright</a>, but I thought it was telling (perhaps?) that Jon Stewart indicated he'd be pretty happy with McCain, Obama or Clinton in the Whitehouse.  Albright of course didn't agree, but I wonder…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:51:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Vanity Fair's <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/03/obama200803" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Raising Obama</a> backgrounder paints a picture of a remarkable and focused individual.</p><p>Compare and contrast with the White House incumbent.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:46:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm a bit surprised a photo developer feels its OK to take extra copies of your photos and put them on display.</p></blockquote><p>Shit Fletcher, of course they asked me first!  And yes I get to keep the <plug>(in my opinion, very reasonable at $20 for a 12" x 18")</plug> enlargements…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:36:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>Oh yeah. You want rhetoric in the classic black style?</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAcN5iKArQU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here you go.</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:40:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Even if Clin-ton can manage the economy better, can create more jobs and provide better healthcare, is that really more valuable than someone who can restore a sense of dignity and direction to the nation?</p></blockquote><p>Jeez Keith, you need to add your sarcasm tag when you say stuff like that,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:53:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p>Damien,</p><p>I'm a bit surprised a photo developer feels its OK to take extra copies of your photos and put them on display.</p><p>Doesnt that constitute a breach of copyright or similar?</p><p>I mean, sure its flattering to have others appreciate your work.... but shouldnt they ask first?</p><p>Do you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:44:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If I had the 3 remaining viable candidates as applicants for a senior project management role in a business environment, I'd take Hillary.</p></blockquote><p>Me too, but President isn't a project manager. Being inspiring is the major part of the job. It's not like they don't have actual project managers in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:28:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<p><a href="http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2008/02/vote-goddam-issues-or-i-will-release.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">John Rogers is cleverer than me, so I'll let him do the "no policy" rebuttal.</a></p><p>Interesting first comment on that post, which includes the factoid that Obama has the same amount of experience as Lincoln did when he ran for president. True, or feel-good myth? I can't be bothered doing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:20:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>The problem with a "truth machine" is that it does not tell you anything very useful. It tells you what the subject *believes* is the truth.</p><p>Ask a <a href="http://www.investigatemagazine.com/radio.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">flying spaghetti monster</a> believer for their version of the truth then it will diverge so much from what most "reasonable" people perceive…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:59:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael Savidge</title>
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						<p><em>or will we realise the only way out is a world government and a reach for the stars...</em></p><p>We'll need a truth machine for that to work...</p><p><br /><a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/34911.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.reason.com/news/show/34911.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:32:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>is that really more valuable than someone who can restore a sense of dignity and direction to the nation?</p></blockquote><p>That's why I think he'll win &ndash; he's become The Person For The Time. Not only the nomination, but he'll wipe McCain in the general. The momentum he has, and he…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:20:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<p>Damian, I was pleased when our mutual Doctor friend finally conceded that Obama was, in fact, our Lord and Saviour.</p><p>I'm with Russell and Don. His oratory isn't an appeal to base instincts, but to &ndash; as another fancypants, wishy-washy orator put it &ndash; the better angels of our nature.…</p>
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				<title>jb</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I know know how closely you watch these things, Damien, but Senator Clinton is no slough at having plenty of folks who will piss their pants on cue.</quote/></p><p>And not only for Senator Clinton.</p><p>I'm quite convinced that a dominant incontinence chromosome pair has at some stage insinuated itself into…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:43:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I remember telling some friends at school (I was 17) that I thought Clinton was the first good looking American president since Kennedy.</p><p>They all looked at me like I was mental.</p></blockquote><p>well of course they did, like, omigod &ndash; had you forgotten <em>this</em>  <a href="http://www.fitness.gov/50thanniversary/photos-firstfiftyyears/VicePresidentRichardNixon.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">guy</a>??</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:56:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Zippy Gonzales</title>
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						After George Bush, how bad can Obama possibly be? Even if he's Jimmy Carter bad, at least it's an improvement on Bush. And I believe there is more substance to Obama than you suspect. Even Cornel West digs him. Obama has great potential. </the_force>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But c'mon &mdash; if you have a great speech, you give it in every town, right? Sure, Joe Klein from Time is gonna get tired of hearing it, but the people in those towns won't.</p></blockquote><p>Well, yes.  I can understand why everyone is getting campaign bus cabin fever &mdash; just…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:44:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well he was the first PILF in my lifetime.</p></blockquote><p>During the 1992 election campaign, I remember telling some friends at school (I was 17) that I thought Clinton was the first good looking American president since Kennedy.</p><p>They all looked at me like I was mental.</p>
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				<title>slarty</title>
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						<p>No point in getting interested in the internal politics of a nation clearly in its sunset years. A nation where 70%+ of the population still believe in ghosts just can't be taken seriously.</p><p>So just accept the fact all those Democrats watched The West Wing and think that Obama is…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>As for what he's going to do, to me the only important thing is Iraq, and he already opposed it way more than any other viable candidate. That speaks volumes to me. I couldn't give a crap about how the Americans are going to manage their economy and internal services,…</blockquote>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>So I have criticised the US media for the way they portrayed Clinton as a witch etc. but this Obama "cult" meme about Obama is equally shallow. So he's a good orator, like Nelson Mandela maybe?</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaLJdlBik1Q" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">As the man says</a>, you can go to his web site for his 10…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I can't for the life of me understand why Bill Clinton still get treated like a rock star, though I've got to admit the Clinton Charisma always struck me as somewhat opaque.</p></blockquote><p>Well he was the first PILF in my lifetime.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>Why does Obama have less substance than (H) Clinton?</p><p>They can go head to head on policy issues such as healthcare plans; just have a look at his website. And it's not as though Clinton has any more stellar a career in government office than Obama.</p><p>Also note that his…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I had quite an enjoyable night watching Obama YouTube clips. It's actually the first time <em>any</em> politician has managed to get me enthused. I definitely saw the woman Damian is talking about, or a similar one. She was not only wriggling and stamping, but she also had her hands on…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>That's an easy thing to think Rob, but Obama's schtick isn't shallow &mdash; the Lawrence Lessig endorsement had a big impact on me. The slate seems to be quite centrist, but that tallies with his big-tent message. And as I pointed out in the post, he's an effective legislator.</p><p>The…</p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And just to play devil's advocate for a moment, could Obama's real problem be that he's way too 'black' &mdash; and like it or not, so much African-American rhetoric and culture comes straight from the pulpit and the choir loft.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, but most preachers manage to get some specifics in…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>If we must compare John Key to an American pollie, let's get it right. Obama? JFK? Nah.</p><p>He's Dan Quayle. </p><p>"We don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to go forward."</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						I know know how closely you watch these things, Damien, but Senator Clinton is no slough at having plenty of folks who will piss their pants on cue.  And I can't for the life of me understand why Bill Clinton still get treated like a rock star, though I've got…
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						I forgot to mention it, and I'd love to find the clip (have trawled through YouTube but there's a lot there), but there was one post-primary speech Obama gave, and I remember fixating on this middle-aged woman standing behind him to the right.  She acted exactly like a young woman…
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But does being a good speaker make you a cult leader?</p></blockquote><p>Me so old. Me remember Ross Perot. Ross talk good and people love Ross.</p><p>Which isn't to say I don't support Obama. US voters are possibly <em>so</em> jaded they'd rather someone with no experience took the  job, such is the…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Wow... am I the only person who finds a messiah a damn sight more attractive than someone whose supporters should get off the martyr trip, and do something useful with the lumber and nails?
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<p>You're leaving? Who can we <a href="http://zoomin.co.nz/?group/show/9284 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">follow around</a> now?</p><blockquote><p>Most importantly, I hope to still be able to continue my duties as the reigning Wellingtonista Best Dub-dub-dubber.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry Damian, between leaving, those topless photos surfacing and that video of you trying to explain why Americans can't find Iraq on a…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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