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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>It says here that Hillary Clinton is "a working-class hero who gets knocked down, always gets up and thus wins favorable comparisons to Rocky Balboa".</p><p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/05/AR2008050502063.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/05/AR2008050502063.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR</a></p><p>As a working class hero myself, I totally see what he is talking about.  No Easy Way Out was always completely underrated IMO.  Men…</p>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<p>This may be the latest response to a topic (since the previous last post) so far on PA. But what the hey, here's the gist of what I wrote to Anjum/stargazer in relation to Obama's expedient response to rumours that he swore an oath on the Quran:</p><p>Anjum wrote: __"you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:24:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<p>I would have voted for it but McCain has particular reasons not to which don't include support for torture.</p><p>The Harvard Human Rights Journal has a critique of the <a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/hrj/iss19/suleman.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Detainee Treatment Act of 2005</a> which McCain sponsored and which is the basis for McCain's argument that torture is already illegal.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:50:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Right, but on the other hand if put to vote one should support it, even if one agrees with McCain &ndash; even if the vote is just a symbolic gesture
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:23:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So McCain doesn't vote against the waterboarding ban.</p></blockquote><p>don't rely on Sullivan's interpretation &ndash; have a read of what McCain actually says which is at the bottom of the post. His view is that torure is already illegal under current statutes. (which is what many critics of Bush have been…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:54:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						So McCain doesn't vote against the <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/02/mccain-against.html " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> waterboarding</a> ban. Seriously, wtf? I had thought this would be his one red line.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:17:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...pressing for Democrats to seat the disputed delegations from Florida and Michigan, who held their primaries in January in defiance of Democratic Party rules.</p></blockquote><p>This is a little misleading. The issue would have to be put before the rules committee who would then make a decision. It's not in defiance…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:14:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>From the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/us/politics/14delegates.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=2&amp;hp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NY Times</a>:</p><blockquote><p>With every delegate precious, Mrs. Clinton’s advisers also made it clear that they were prepared to take a number of potentially incendiary steps to build up Mrs. Clinton’s count. Top among these, her aides said, is pressing for Democrats to seat the disputed delegations from Florida and…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:32:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p>I think a Clinton-Obama (or vise-versa) ticket would be fantastic.... and hopefully neither's ego is too big to accept 2nd place (but there's a lot of doubt over that)...</p><p>But neither of them can admit it before they've lost....</p><p>If you really want to win, and voters are closely split...…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:11:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My older boy is a confirmed Obama fan, and ventured the other day that "African American people are just smarter at the job than women."</p></blockquote><p>If only <em>Cleopatra Jones</em> were running!</p><blockquote><p>Because I'm far too busy and important to do my own research, can someone please tell me what the likelihood…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:59:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						Yes. It's entirely likely of course, that if it was pushed up to the federal level, that no one would have gay marriage anywhere in the States. In the short term that's worse, but I do wonder if the current situation creates 'gay silos' &ndash; states or cities which have…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:48:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p>Craig...  absolutely they will be pleased, and thats great for them.... but what about others in different states who cant achieve that same happiness?</p><p>The whole shtick about "human rights" is that they apply to all... with no preference or discrimination...</p><p>The categories we often think about that shouldnt be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:26:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think it's one of the reasons I don't like a federation not having more control. Being gay/non-white/an immigrant/female can be a completely different experience from one state to the other</p></blockquote><p>Hum... there might be one or two gay couples legally married in the Commonwealth of Mass. who are pleased…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:06:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?ref=opinion" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Krugman</a> has some interesting observations on the dyamics of the campaign.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:30:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						Yeah, sometimes the state rights thing is just a complete dodge on the part of federal politicians &ndash; I believe in this, but if I say it I'll be crucified by the electorate &ndash; but on other times it's a way to get around the federal government and get some…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:28:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						OK, <a href="http://obama.senate.gov/press/060607-obama_statement_26/index.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> is our man Obama having a bet both ways in 2006, when Colorado Republican Senator <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Allard" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wayne Allard</a> was wheeling out the perennial, but so-far ill-fated, Marriage Protection Amendment to the Constitution for the third time (yes, the mother-flippin' <em>US Constitution</em>! Founding document, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, votes…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:21:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>That's fascinating, Carolyn. Makes me want to find out where Obama &ndash; and his fairly evangelical church &mdash; stands on the GLBT issues. </p><p>I wonder if Hillary will get a chance to clear her good name in this area, since the name "Clinton" is attached to two explicitly homophobic pieces…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:50:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Carolyn Skelton</title>
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						<p>On the GLBT issues discussed on the previous page of this thread:</p><p>I am in contact with a few US lesbian feminists, most of whom are pretty critical of both Obama and Clinton. They tend to say neither would fix the broken state of US politics, as they are both…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:56:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>It hardly matters in any case. No vote... even though the eventual winner of the US election will happily declare herself to be the leader of the free world.</blockquote> I know, what's up with that. If they truly are the "leaders of the free world" then you think they'd give…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<a href="http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/dates/index.html#20080212" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Not a good day for Hillary and Mike</a>.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:09:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It largely has ... and CNN has called Maryland for Obama and McCain, with 0% of the votes counted :-)</p></blockquote><p>Damn, who do I call in Atlanta for the Lotto numbers. :)</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Classic, now her deputy campaign manager's fallen on his sword too. It's starting to look like a chessboard nearing the endgame.
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, if CNN's Virginia exit poll pans out...</p></blockquote><p>It largely has ... and CNN has called Maryland for Obama and McCain, with 0% of the votes counted :-)</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Graeme, thanks for the break down of the remaining primaries.
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Or you pick the rat-bastard you'd rather have down the hall where their potential for trouble-making is limited. About the only reason I can see for Eisenhower selecting Richard Nixon.</p></blockquote><p>And then when it was his turn, Nixon picked Spiro Agnew. </p><p>This was a ratchet effect which could only go…</p>
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				<title>Tim McKenzie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>my opinion of McCain will take a serious nosedrive if he starts singing from that hymnbook</p></blockquote><p>Funny you should mention <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267041,00.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">singing</a>.</p><p><><</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Meanwhile, if <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#VADEM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">CNN's Virginia exit poll</a> pans out, it looks like the various memes around race and gender are falling apart.  Which is not a bad thing, by the way.  (Both races have around 40% of precincts reported back.  Obama is trouncing Clinton 62-37, with the caveat that some parts…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Sorry...</p><p>And look at the field there were running against Eisenhower for the nomination in 1952 &mdash; including California Governor Earl Warren, who resigned the next year to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (A move Eisenhower allegedly described as ""the biggest damned-fool mistake I ever made.")  It's pretty…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Skill set seems often to be a secondary (or lower) consideration.</p></blockquote><p>Except for the incumbent.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I understand that, traditionally, the Deputy is chosen to fill the skill gap of the President...</p></blockquote><p>Or you pick the rat-bastard you'd rather have down the hall where their potential for trouble-making is limited.  About the only reason I can see for Eisenhower selecting Richard Nixon.  Apart from their anti-Communist…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>I think, often as not, VP is chosen to 'get' an area of the electoral college vote that the Pres candidate can't get. If the President is from the North East, the VP will be from the south etc.</p><p>Skill set seems often to be a secondary (or lower) consideration.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Because I'm far too busy and important to do my own research, can someone please tell me what the likelihood of Clinton taking Obama for VP or vice versa is, depending on who wins the nomination?</p></blockquote><p>I understand that, traditionally, the Deputy is chosen to fill the skill gap of…</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If you can play the guitar, perhaps we could get a gig</p></blockquote><p>Can I play the guitar?  I don't know &ndash; I've never tried.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It hardly matters in any case. No vote... even though the eventual winner of the US election will happily declare herself to be the leader of the free world.</p></blockquote><p>If you can play the guitar, perhaps we could get a gig playing one of the innagural balls.  After that Grammy…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>I saw the Coulter endorsement, gwad! </p><p>Now that McCain's pretty much sewn-up the GOP nomination, Dems will have to be thinking which candidate presents the best alternative? An alternative candidate or a non-alternative? Perhaps that's a little unkind to Clinton but on several issues, McCain and Clinton occupy similar territory.…</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>Yes, well, <a href="http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/im-for-clinton/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I'm for Clinton</a>, but it's a margin call.  I think I would like to take back that comment about Obama being an empty suit &ndash; that's at least a little unfair of me.</p><p>It hardly matters in any case.  No vote... even though the eventual winner of the…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						Because I'm far too busy and important to do my own research, can someone please tell me what the likelihood of Clinton taking Obama for VP or vice versa is, depending on who wins the nomination?
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Interestingly for me, all the vox-pops I've seen unerringly refer to Obama's cross party appeal and maybe this is why he's doing so well since Super Tues?</p></blockquote><p>Well, to be fair to Clinton she does have those vital endorsements from Coulter and Limbaugh.  :)   Your mileage may vary on whether…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Perhaps Graeme can advise if the remaining primaries permit independents to vote for Dems?</p></blockquote><p>As best as I can figure it, the remaining races are:</p><p><strong>Open primaries</strong>:<br />Idaho<br />Indiana<br />Mississippi<br />Montana<br />Rhode Island (semi-closed)<br />Vermont<br />Virginia<br />Washington (already held caucuses)<br />Wisconsin</p><p><strong>Closed primaries</strong>:<br />D.C.<br />Kentucky<br />Maryland<br />Nebraska<br />North Carolina<br />Ohio…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hillary vs. Obama?</p><p>This post says it all.</p></blockquote><p>Hells bells this is good writing! Thanks Deborah, this blog looks like a great read.</p><p>Obama's obvious charisma and passion are enormously attractive but surely no one thinks that he writes all his own material? Surely no one thinks MLK, JFK or…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Mr Grumpy is doing some time on the maximum security naughty step.  You hardly assert civility by being incivil, but that post just touched a very raw nerve.  If you want to talk about 'binary thinking' it's time to get over, how about the notion that people who vote the…
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Obama supports the complete repeal of DOMA. Clinton doesn't. I don't have a clue where she stands on 'don't ask, don't tell', because it seems to morph depending on the time of day and which fundraiser she's at.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think you need to be a gay man to think…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>This post says it all.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks.  I do look at his record &ndash; and I've got say this as a gay man.  Obama supports the complete repeal of DOMA.  Clinton doesn't.  I don't have a clue where she stands on 'don't ask, don't tell', because it seems to morph depending…</p>
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						<p>Hillary vs. Obama?</p><p><a href="http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=808" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This post</a> says it all.</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As a very dear sparring partner from a politics list I'm on &mdash; and a self-described 'raging lesbian-feminist liberal from your nightmares' &mdash; tersely puts it:</p><p>"Yes, but not her."</p></blockquote><p>Now there's a weird coincidence. I woman I worked for, a while back, and a raging hetro who herself once…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Still would like to see a woman President, though, eh?</p></blockquote><p>As a very dear sparring partner from a politics list I'm on &mdash; and a self-described 'raging lesbian-feminist liberal from your nightmares' &mdash; tersely puts it:</p><p>"Yes, but not her."</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>"Perhaps Obama's father from Africa taught him some different ways of thinking, from that part of the world, not like the way Americans think, so he's more smart about the world than if he was just American. Because people in Africa have to do more things from scratch rather than…</blockquote>
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				<title>David Slack</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is McCain able?</p></blockquote><p>And if he were your brother would you be game to be his keeper?</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>"Somebody point me towards a paradigm for thinking about it that doesn't take into account each candidate's "first"ness but rather their fitness for office"</p><p>Either support the 'new broom' (Obama), or the 'smart political operator by virtue of having had a lifetimes involvment in it' (Clinton).</p><p>No mention of ethnicity…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"African American people are just smarter at the job than women." Where to start parsing that one??</p></blockquote><p>Hee! It's so right on in one way, and so horribly reactionary in another!</p><p>Obama backed off the death penalty thing slightly, Tim, in saying something about the most heinous crimes deserving the…</p>
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				<title>Tim McKenzie</title>
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						<p>Since you asked, according to <a href="http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_2008#Democrats_3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Campaigns Wikia</a>, Barack opposes capital punishment, but Hillary doesn't. I have no idea whether or not it's true.</p><p>Also, in what I've seen, Barack and his wife talk about unity a lot, whereas Hillary says things like</p><blockquote><p>I am ready to go toe to toe…</p></blockquote>
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