Public Address | Cafe | Busytown: She loves you, YA, YA, YA! https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=204332#post204332 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=204332#post204332 Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:16:26 +1300 Rob Stowell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=204330#post204330 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=204330#post204330 Finished GOTD this morning, and just loved it. Rang a lot of my bells :) Great plot and characters, love interest, neat twists.
I found the mythology worked perfectly for me, and the ideas about stories and the world resonant and lucid. Gosh. She’s one to look out for, eh?…

]]> Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:03:12 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=197060#post197060 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=197060#post197060 Lie Berries and other bitter fruit to swallow...
It is alarming to see the British Government's Austerity Binge resulting in libraries possibly closing
– though I liked the "novel" idea that saw the borrowers of one library in Stratford* take out ALL the books!

*MP3 link from this morning's Summer…

]]> Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:27:57 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=197026#post197026 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=197026#post197026 I finished it some weeks ago. I enjoyed the first pages – drama club stuff. I particularly liked the character of Iris. My favourite actually.

Read whole book with relish but some of the mythology was a bit much for moi. I had also recently read Hullaballoo in the Guava…

]]> Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:05:39 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=196693#post196693 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=196693#post196693 Finished Guardian of the Dead. Wow!

Admittedly, the first 80 pages left me wondering when the action started, but that was good, because needed the strength to get through the rest while maintaining regular breathing.

Also, for some reason, perhaps a need to re-visit more of our mythology, I found…

]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:23:14 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=196009#post196009 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=196009#post196009 Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:12:23 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=196008#post196008 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=196008#post196008 Thanks Cecelia – I've just e-mailed you. The protocol -as I understand it – is, if there is an envelope top right, the person is willing to be privately emailed by any PASer.
I have such an envelope...

]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:21:23 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=196006#post196006 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=196006#post196006 Metro isnt sold in South Westland.
Classic.
I thought – vaguely – that there might be a little Paper Plus somewhere down there which could get you one!
Emma's offer sounds much better but I have scanned the two relevant pages. If you want to read the essay asap let…

]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 20:44:05 +1300 Emma Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195998#post195998 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195998#post195998 Sun, 02 Jan 2011 11:55:56 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195997#post195997 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195997#post195997 I'd appreciate a scanned copy Cecelia (and this machine is happy with image format/s.)
Metro isnt sold in South Westland.

]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 11:51:25 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195996#post195996 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195996#post195996 Got GotD yesterday. Still reading about the 'New Zealand wars', as described by Maurice Shadbolt, but looking forward to it next.

Jolisa's article sounds interesting, and provocative. Will seek it out.

]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:49:49 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195993#post195993 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195993#post195993 Islander, I tried to reply yesterday – didn't get through.

Metro isn't online so you would have to get hold of the mag. Worth reading because it also has an interesting interview with Matt McCarten.

Anyway, Jolissa is writing about the current NZ novel: too sensational, not emotionally engaging enough,…

]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 08:55:54 +1300 JLM https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195978#post195978 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195978#post195978 Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:42:18 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195966#post195966 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195966#post195966 Cecelia – any link?
I've tried to find one but the site is pretty well closed for anything but advertising...

]]> Sat, 01 Jan 2011 01:25:17 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195934#post195934 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195934#post195934 Jolissa, I have just read your Metro article twice. What's wrong with the NZ novel? It was meant to be provocative, said the editor. I'm provoked. (But in a good way.)

Not QUITE sure what you MEAN.

]]> Fri, 31 Dec 2010 08:39:12 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195225#post195225 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195225#post195225 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:22:31 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195221#post195221 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195221#post195221 O berloody hell- Kage Baker's death slid right under my radar. I am sorry to learn this-

You're not the only one, but not much of a surprise. Baker kept her uterine cancer diagnosis private until very close to the end, and IIRC she was able to work until a…

]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:05:04 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195195#post195195 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=195195#post195195 Glad your lad enjoyed Curious Incident. It's one of my favourites but the only youngster I've discussed it with didn't get it.

BTW, I'm part way through GOTD. The teenage girl in me is lapping it up while the teacherly part of me admires the transition from realism to fantasy.

]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:33:43 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194997#post194997 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194997#post194997 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:52:32 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194988#post194988 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194988#post194988

Kage Baker's "Company" series is just brilliant.

and I've only recently heard that, sadly Kage Baker died January 31, 2010. So Not Less Than Gods (which I'm just about to start) is probably, the last 'Company" book.
Can a TV series be far away?

Sally your son (and others) might…

]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:05:11 +1300 sally jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194387#post194387 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194387#post194387 I’ll be having quite a lot to do with 12 year-olds next year, more boys than girls, so all these suggestions are wonderful.

Cecelia. The Curious Incident of the Dog by Mark Haddon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curious_Incident_of_the_Dog_in_the_Night-time
remains a favourite of my 12 yo son. Otherwise Jaws; there's no in-between with him.

]]> Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:37:06 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194377#post194377 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194377#post194377 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:59:31 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194369#post194369 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194369#post194369 Have to read them soon, so I can then wrap them up for Christmas presents. Is that allowed?
It's called 'checking all the pages are there'

]]> Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:59:24 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194368#post194368 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194368#post194368 Albany Borders had a stack of GOTD.

By all means read first!

]]> Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:28:38 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194360#post194360 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194360#post194360 Guardian of the Dead, which they apparently had two of, but they must have been hiding, cause we had to… ]]> Sat, 11 Dec 2010 08:14:45 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194310#post194310 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194310#post194310 I hope this thread never ends!

I got my hands on GOTD yesterday and started to read it in the mall. Just my cup of tea. But naughty, I'm reading the first Percy Jackson at the moment (as well as The Finkler Question) and I should finish that/them first. I'm…

]]> Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:08:53 +1300 sally jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194277#post194277 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194277#post194277 Tui: Excellent post. I've read the HP series to my children and tend to agree on its merits, though the polarisation of good and evil is a bit stock – IMHO.

Mind you, my favourite book as a teen was The Diary of Anne Frank. It still is a favourite…

]]> Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:56:35 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194132#post194132 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194132#post194132 google books preview ]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:15:12 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194127#post194127 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194127#post194127 I asked my daughter what she would recommend as YA fiction, and without hesitation she named Un Lun Dun by China Miéville.
After some thought she also named the The Underland Chronicles series by Suzanne Collins.

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:16:02 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194062#post194062 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194062#post194062 Not at all.
Need to learn not to ask such questions on here, as one does tend to come out looking a bit thick.
I could go on and on and on.
Please do. The girls reading list for the next 5 – 7 years is being laid out before…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:02:30 +1300 Tui Head https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194056#post194056 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194056#post194056 It would be good sometimes if popular YA, or children's fiction, for that matter, could transcend the perennial triumph of good over evil and explore some other facets of human existence, like identity, confidence, autonomy, freedom, compassion, empathy, grief, humanism, philosophy, entitlement... Is that too much to ask?

Not at…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:51:26 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194008#post194008 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194008#post194008 How did Pratchett put it? Children need to hear stories about monsters because it teaches them that monsters can be defeated.

Very similar to G.K. Chesterton’s brilliant defence of the fairy tale:

All this kind of talk is based on that complete forgetting of what a child is like which…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:23:50 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194004#post194004 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194004#post194004 it isn't the monsters that are the fantasy – it's the happy-ever-after. And as a society, we're bloody poor at that.

I still don't want to rob them of the hope for a 'happier'- ever-after, if not entirely happy, all things being relative. Without hope, we are hopeless.
__The Secret…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:05:18 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194003#post194003 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194003#post194003 One theory is that we shouldn't cotton wool children because what they read is a safe place to start emotionally reconciling yourself to some hard truths — the world can be hard and cruel, you will feel as if nobody understands you or cares, grown-ups will let you down. But,… ]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:46:31 +1300 sally jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194000#post194000 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=194000#post194000 One theory is that we shouldn’t cotton wool children because what they read is a safe place to start emotionally reconciling yourself to some hard truths – the world can be hard and cruel, you will feel as if nobody understands you or cares, grown-ups will let you down. But,… ]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:23:40 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193997#post193997 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193997#post193997 It would be good sometimes if popular YA, or children's fiction, for that matter, could transcend the perennial triumph of good over evil and explore some other facets of human existence, like identity, confidence, autonomy, freedom, compassion, empathy, grief, humanism, philosophy, entitlement... Is that too much to ask?

Sir, I'd…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:18:57 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193995#post193995 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193995#post193995 One theory is that we shouldn't cotton wool children because what they read is a safe place to start emotionally reconciling yourself to some hard truths — the world can be hard and cruel, you will feel as if nobody understands you or cares, grown-ups will let you down.

For…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:02:48 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193993#post193993 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193993#post193993 as male characters speaking and saying more, doing more
A thought that crossed my mind was Odo Hirsch's Hazel Green books, which feature a strong, well written female lead, I would say equivalent to the Tiffany Aching Pratchett books. Because our daughter read them some years back I tend to…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:01:03 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193989#post193989 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193989#post193989 Haven't read Gaiman yet, and while increasingly feeling compelled to, at the same time all the indications are that it has some challenges, particularly for the precocious child dipping into YA.

It does – but I think they're healthy challenges, if that makes any sense whatsoever. Coraline and __The Graveyard…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:44:19 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193987#post193987 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193987#post193987 Haven't read Gaiman yet, and while increasingly feeling compelled to, at the same time all the indications are that it has some challenges, particularly for the precocious child dipping into YA.

Shriver's Kevin sounds brilliant, and disturbing, in a not too dissimilar way to Wally Lamb's __[[http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3086160.The_Hour_I_First_Believed|The Hour I First…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:34:37 +1300 sally jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193985#post193985 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193985#post193985 But in Gaiman’s defence, I don’t think he presents it in a torture porny or sexist/misogynistic kind of way.

Craig: Good. But probably not quite as much of this stuff in YA fiction anyway, ?
Clearly I need to read more of the genre to comment intelligently. But in other…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:32:25 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193983#post193983 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193983#post193983 And just to make Sally's life more difficult here's a glowing review of Charles De Lint's new book that "brings originality back to the coming-of-age story". ( LINK CONTAINS MILD SPOILERS )

I've been a crazed de Lint fanatic since I first stumbled on a copy of Someplace To Be Flying…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:21:50 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193976#post193976 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193976#post193976

It's not that, not for me

Aaaargh! I've got to get a lot better at the segue from the specific case to the general statement. Sorry, Lucy — any man-splaination was wholly unintentional; book threads tend to bring out my inner didactic.

Sorry to be so slow in responding, it's…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:47:15 +1300 Rob Hosking https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193973#post193973 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193973#post193973 Totally agree much of the best writing today is in YA category. I think one reason is most literary fiction is scared of ‘too much emotion.’ It’s all so ironic and self-referential not only do the basics of story get lost, but the basics of emotionally connecting to a story… ]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:28:28 +1300 sally jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193968#post193968 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193968#post193968 “The Graveyard Book” is seriously good, and it doesnt pull some hard punches.
Islander: Yes, I'm beginning to form this opinion. Thank you David Hood for the blog link to Gaimen's reading of the first chapter, the chapter that begins with the killing of the young family. It's not easy…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:11:16 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193964#post193964 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193964#post193964 This is mostly true for me but the one notable exception being American Psycho – that is one novel where the words alone have burned some gruesome scenes indelibly on my brain.

There's been a few like that for me. Fortunately not too many. It's one of the points where…

]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 03:49:12 +1300 bmk https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193953#post193953 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193953#post193953 It's that – for me – pictures are much, much harder to forget, and therefore more disturbing. I can forget words, if I try hard enough, or at least mentally blur them.
This is mostly true for me but the one notable exception being American Psycho – that is one…

]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:31:49 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193947#post193947 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193947#post193947 "The Graveyard Book" is seriously good, and it doesnt pull some hard punches.

*SPOILER ALERT*







(Sorry Miss Lupescu – I liked you as much as Silas)

]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 17:38:12 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193932#post193932 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193932#post193932 ...Perhaps a preview is in order. The Graveyard Book...
Speaking of previews of the Graveyard Book, Neil Gaimen is reading a chapter on stops of his current book tour, and posting the recordings:
see his blog for individual chapter recordings.

]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:07:05 +1300 sally jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193931#post193931 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193931#post193931 you know your child, and his reading level and emotional maturity, infinitely better than I do.

Er...I wouldn't be too sure, though the mere suggestion of the possibility practically made me weep (seriously).

Sorry to be so slow in responding, it's taken me this long to check out the many…

]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:40:11 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193924#post193924 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193924#post193924

Pictures are…much harder, and therefore violent content stands out more. So I’ll read things that I wouldn’t watch if you paid me.

I guess this is the origin of "graphic violence" – if you get a picture of it, it generally has a stronger impact.

]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 14:47:24 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193885#post193885 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193885#post193885 If it's a personal quirk, it's a rather common one. In part, I suspect it's because we do have a class system for the arts — LITERATURE is respectable, movies and comic books are not.

It's not that, not for me; I could name half a dozen comics that are…

]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 09:51:49 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193880#post193880 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193880#post193880

Maybe that's a personal quirk, I don't know.

If it's a personal quirk, it's a rather common one. In part, I suspect it's because we do have a class system for the arts — LITERATURE is respectable, movies and comic books are not. I'll have to dig up the exact…

]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 08:41:48 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193876#post193876 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193876#post193876 Lucy S., I gave my brother Sandman comics when he was twelve and he enjoyed them very much but beware the idea that comics are more appropriate for children than novels – not true at all, there's all sorts of R-rated content in there and I would imagine that 15+… ]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 07:29:45 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193854#post193854 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193854#post193854 Maurice Shadbolt's Season of the Jew made me weep. I'm a little scared to reread it, in case it makes me cry again. Or, in case it doesn't.
Yes, me too. The 'seconds' shop next to farmers in Newmarket had the New Zealand Wars Trilogy for $30. There were a…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:16:27 +1300 Carol Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193831#post193831 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193831#post193831

I'm trying to think of the last time an adult novel made me really feel something.

I thought this Guardian interview with the wondrous David Mitchell was sweet – one of the questions was what had made him cry of late, and he said that it was reading Kate de…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:54:57 +1300 Tui Head https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193819#post193819 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193819#post193819 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:23:39 +1300 Jolisa https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193805#post193805 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193805#post193805 Totally agree much of the best writing today is in YA category. I think one reason is most literary fiction is scared of ‘too much emotion.’ It’s all so ironic and self-referential not only do the basics of story get lost, but the basics of emotionally connecting to a story… ]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:45:38 +1300 Jolisa https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193803#post193803 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193803#post193803 Whatever the emoticon is for refreshing the page avidly to see what new wisdom has arrived, goes here => .

Tui, I may have to designate you honorary YA consul for PAS, if that's all right? You have the Knowledge.

Meanwhile, I am pondering the merits of a comics-based defensive…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:41:40 +1300 Keir Leslie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193800#post193800 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193800#post193800 With reference to woman sf authors, one must mention Joanna Russ.

(In general, the Women's Press had an interesting sf imprint.)

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:26:27 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193782#post193782 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193782#post193782

Yeah, that makes no sense, since books are so much thicker and heavier. You wouldn't get a lot more than a paper cut fom a comic.

You could kill someone with this.

Usagi Yojimbo is a really wonderful boy-friendly comic book — the kind of comix crack a youngling might…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:52:36 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193774#post193774 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193774#post193774

Yeah, that makes no sense, since books are so much thicker and heavier. You wouldn’t get a lot more than a paper cut fom a comic.

Dunno, have you seen some of the collected editions?

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:32:18 +1300 Rob Stowell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193768#post193768 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193768#post193768 Thanks once again Jolisa- for a great and entertaining review, and just in time for Christmas. Since I want to read it myself, it'll have to be a family member :)
Totally agree much of the best writing today is in YA category. I think one reason is most literary…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:08:48 +1300 Chad C Mulligan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193766#post193766 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193766#post193766 What! No Mary Gentle? She puts those bloody hobbits in their place i can tell you.

Sally – H P Lovecraft and Robert E Howard. Might as well get him started on the classics early and then at least he can see where every other bugger steals from.

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:45:58 +1300 Anne M https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193752#post193752 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193752#post193752 I shall trot in to Bruce McKenzie Bookseller and get a copy for my 12 year old – who reads both Gordianus the Finder AND the Warrior Cats

I hope you're getting a cut of the action Jolisa

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:02:42 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193748#post193748 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193748#post193748 Although I personally find comics violence more disturbing than book violence, so.

Yeah, that makes no sense, since books are so much thicker and heavier. You wouldn't get a lot more than a paper cut fom a comic.

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:40:28 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193746#post193746 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193746#post193746

Sally – Gaiman’s Sandman comics might be a nice transistion from King (who lauds the work in one edition’s volumes, which can’t hurt).

I love Sandman, but I found some of the content disturbing enough at eighteen, let alone twelve. I really wouldn't recommend it for that age. Some of…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:32:19 +1300 Martin Lindberg https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193741#post193741 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193741#post193741 Justine Larbalestier. Her Magic trilogy was quickly devoured by our resident young adults. ]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:09:24 +1300 Tim Michie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193736#post193736 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193736#post193736 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:34:45 +1300 Tim Michie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193735#post193735 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193735#post193735 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:33:59 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193733#post193733 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193733#post193733

Sorry to sully the highbrow discussion, but my 12yo boy reads Stephen King and is hanging out to read The Omen when he's '(much) older'. How worried should I be?

Purely on the grounds of David Seltzer's functional illiteracy and leering sadism, I would issue a papal anathema. I'd shove…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:31:14 +1300 sally jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193729#post193729 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193729#post193729 Young adults are picky readers. It doesn't mean they always have the best taste (*cough*Twilight*cough*) but by and large both children and young adults are extremely intolerant of wasteful writing or writing that's playing around just to play around.

Sorry to sully the highbrow discussion, but my 12yo boy reads…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:17:28 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193690#post193690 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193690#post193690

There were lists on Bookman Beattie that included "Night" by Elie Wiesel as a bestselling download for *YA readers" -bloody hell!

Indeed – I remember reading a biography of Dodie Smith, and how she was somewhat alarmed (but gratified) to be getting fan letters from teenage girls who adored __I…

]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:39:35 +1300 linger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193669#post193669 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193669#post193669 Pat Cadigan. ]]> Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:13:43 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193653#post193653 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193653#post193653 Would that be Marcus Didius Falco or the more serious (but still wonderful) Gordianus the Finder? Down these mean strade...

Too fast , Mr Ranapia.

Both, as it happens. ;-) The Falco series has so many wonderful characters, have really enjoyed them, and Roman Sub Rosa has been a good…

]]> Sun, 05 Dec 2010 10:08:59 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193649#post193649 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193649#post193649

At least now I can read my trashy Roman detective series with impunity.

Would that be Marcus Didius Falco or the more serious (but still wonderful) Gordianus the Finder? Down these mean strade...

]]> Sun, 05 Dec 2010 09:51:46 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193647#post193647 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193647#post193647 I would never leave the house.

I had started to wonder why I don't get out much lately. ;-)
Helps that I don't do science fiction, though. Imagine.
...all the people, living in outer space-eee!

ETA:
Never hurts to be reminded there are always other voices, other rooms, and other…

]]> Sun, 05 Dec 2010 09:40:56 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193646#post193646 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193646#post193646

Intimidating, much?

I hope not — one thing I'm always trying to do as a reader is be self-aware of how easy it is as a reader to never stick your nose out of the comfort zone of familiarity (be it authors or genres). There's never going to be enough…

]]> Sun, 05 Dec 2010 09:37:34 +1300 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193645#post193645 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193645#post193645 Sheez, once you all get going on Jolisa’s blogs, the reality of the mountains of books before me becomes quickly overwhelming, and feel compelled to crawl back under that rock of which you speak. Intimidating, much? Honey, if I listened to all the music, and read all the books, and… ]]> Sun, 05 Dec 2010 09:22:54 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193640#post193640 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193640#post193640 Baker had a lot of narrative balls (and a cast of dozens spread over several million years) in the air and not a lot of time to hand hold noobs.

Off topic, a bit, but this is what I'm realising by skipping several of Iain M. Banks Culture novels, and…

]]> Sun, 05 Dec 2010 08:35:31 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193639#post193639 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193639#post193639 surely there must be heaps more women writers of brilliant science fiction.

Of course there are – Jo Walton, Cherie Priest, Mary Robinette Kowal, Nalo Hopkinson, off the top of my head...

Kage Baker's "Company" series is just brilliant. There's about nine in the series and I read all nine…

]]> Sun, 05 Dec 2010 07:59:20 +1300 Tui Head https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193631#post193631 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193631#post193631 Lilith said:

Tui, I must totally be living under that rock! :-)

I should clarify that by noting that I spend most of my time in a rarified circle of people who spend a lot of time reading and talking about YA fiction – as Karen mentions, the YA blogosphere…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:14:47 +1300 Tui Head https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193630#post193630 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193630#post193630 I think Margo Lanagan is awfully intense and definitely not for everyone. I thought Black Juice was really amazing, but mileage may vary.

Books for boys – a bit of a mystery to me admittedly since other than my penchant for SF&F my tastes are pretty girly – but William Taylor…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:07:47 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193627#post193627 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193627#post193627 Wow, the PAS hivemind comes up trumps yet again! Thanks for all the great suggestions everybody, I will be taking a long list to the library next time I visit!

Oh and Harry: Mary Doria Russell, how could I have forgotten her. The Sparrow is a total sf classic!

you’ve…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:54:45 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193626#post193626 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193626#post193626 Can you recommend books for boys???

Rick Riordan's Percy Jackson series has been a hit with our miss 'everyone thinks I'm a boy, and I like it'. Three of our extended family have a kind of 'book clique' developing around it where they send the books between Akl and Wgtn.…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:48:36 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193625#post193625 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193625#post193625 Mmm Problem novels – I was very fond of Kate Di Goldi's Sanctuary and her 10 pm Question was one of my favourite reads. Funnily enough I often fail to enjoy the books she recommends. I just don't get Margo Lanagan.
The Changeover – ahhh, loved and admired that and…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:29:13 +1300 Tui Head https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193623#post193623 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193623#post193623 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:59:40 +1300 rodiolio https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193616#post193616 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193616#post193616 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:05:30 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193613#post193613 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193613#post193613 Baen Free Library. ]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:55:40 +1300 Harry Musgrave https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193612#post193612 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193612#post193612 Other female SF writers I like:
CJ Cherryh
RM Meluch
Maria Doria Russell

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:32:19 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193611#post193611 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193611#post193611 Young adult fiction is a favourite genre of mine, so thanks for the review. Can't wait to read GOTD.

Also found the Listener book page helpful – went a step below YA fiction to the "intermediate" category and have just finished "Trash" by Any Mulligan.Thriller – slum boys against the…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:27:50 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193597#post193597 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193597#post193597 Coming classic scific/fanatsy writer
Justina Robson
and classic scific/fantasy writer James Tiptree Jnr.

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:52:44 +1300 Emma Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193589#post193589 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193589#post193589

surely there must be heaps more women writers of brilliant science fiction.

Willis is brilliant, and Butler should certainly be on that list. As, I think, should Marion Zimmer Bradley.

Writing perfectly readable scifi: Elizabeth Moon and Catharine Asaro. Also Martha Wells, though that might be a bit 'soft' scifi.…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:14:37 +1300 B Jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193586#post193586 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193586#post193586 The Warrior's Apprentice , and get… ]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:08:19 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193582#post193582 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193582#post193582

I think a lot of adult readers are missing out on stuff they would really enjoy, although more and more of them are crossing over into the YA section, where they are very welcome.

It’s sad that certain writers get classified as “genre” authors and never get mainstream recognition. I’ve…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:08:02 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193580#post193580 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193580#post193580 Fair warning: the main fairy in GOTD ain't no Tinkerbell :-)

Sounds more like a recommendation than a warning. ;-)

ETA: Today's canvas has a section called 'say it with a book'. The categories covered include;

'Fiction' – nothing to see here.
'Faith' – with a Dawkins and __Jesus for…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:56:35 +1300 Jolisa https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193578#post193578 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193578#post193578

I also really enjoy YA stories, particularly ones with fairies

Fair warning: the main fairy in GOTD ain't no Tinkerbell :-)

I found the Best Children's Books feature in this week's Listener very inspiring, bookshopping-wise. Being so far from the shelves of home, I lose track of who is publishing…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 06:00:25 +1300 Jolisa https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193577#post193577 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193577#post193577 Hooray for you lovely literate lot. I love all the responses here.

I absolutely agree that children are their own best filters when it comes to figuring out what to read, when. Our resident bookfiend recently set aside a perfectly good Susan Cooper time travel book because the emotional themes…

]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:59:30 +1300 Isabel Hitchings https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193572#post193572 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193572#post193572 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:25:55 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193566#post193566 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193566#post193566 The 10pm Question is still one of my favourite novels in recent years. One I shall… ]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:10:34 +1300 Emma Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193564#post193564 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193564#post193564

Hmm, a good question. Should 8 year olds be allowed to read YA titles? They do, but should they?

Kids should read whatever they're ready to read. If they're not emotionally ready for the kind of issues that start to appear in YA fiction, they'll get bored and leave it.…

]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:46:28 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193562#post193562 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193562#post193562 Why not? is my reply recordari- I was given free run of both my parents' smallish library and my Nanna's (smaller.) The very sensible rationale behind free rein was, She'll understand it,
or she wont, & she'll ask about it.
The point for me is the classification of books as YA…

]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:15:52 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193560#post193560 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193560#post193560 Anybody care to discuss what actually is* YA fiction*?

Hmm, a good question. Should 8 year olds be allowed to read YA titles? They do, but should they?

]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:02:52 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193559#post193559 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193559#post193559 Anybody care to discuss what actually is* YA fiction*?
There were lists on Bookman Beattie that included "Night" by Elie Wiesel as a bestselling download for *YA readers" -bloody hell!

]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:52:38 +1300 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193558#post193558 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193558#post193558 The Changeover on the first night it was assigned for English in third form... ]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:48:26 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193555#post193555 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193555#post193555 Ooo, I particularly love your posts about writers and writing, Jolisa

Yes, and I also really enjoy YA stories, particularly ones with fairies. So look forward to getting the first, and already anticipating the next.

]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:28:13 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193554#post193554 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193554#post193554 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:02:37 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193552#post193552 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193552#post193552 Love the interview, love the ideas! Will get "Guardian of the Dead" for many reasons, not least the incorporation of Maori mythology, and an asexual character (speaking as a real live asexual person, fictional depictions are waaaay too thin on the ground.)
The idea that Aotearoa was first settled by…

]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:40:26 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193551#post193551 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/busytown-she-loves-you-ya-ya-ya/?p=193551#post193551 Discussion from blog post.

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