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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But. glory be, all healthy. thriving now, and diversifying-</p><p>you ever want to to come fishing south &ndash; here is a good place-</p></blockquote><p>Glorious indeed &ndash; can really only hope for a big dose of happiness for them. Wandering and painting down south is definitely on my agenda, a spot…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sept 2008 11:10:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>considering that at age 16 one can enter into a (supposedly) life-long commitment, legally create people, be jailed for "life", and drive a lethal weapon on the public roads, I would've thought being able to vote was a far less serious right.</blockquote> Exactly. My thoughts are that, really, 16 year…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sept 2008 15:54:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How low do you think is reasonable? There are plenty of nousey 12 year olds around.</p></blockquote><p>Society seems to be disinclined to attribute responsibility to young people when it gives them power (voting), but inclined to attribute it to them when it has consequences (adult court).</p><p>It would be good…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sept 2008 10:35:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My younger boy has it in him to follow the creative path, it will be interesting to see if he gets hooked. I can't possibly recommend it as a sensible path in this world of getting and spending but secretly I'd be thrilled.</p></blockquote><p>I think this thread needs a good…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sept 2008 09:40:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p>It would be nice for kids to be able to apply for it from age 12, but I guess that opens the door to parents being able to brow-beat their children into voting a certain way.</p><p>However, considering that at age 16 one can enter into a (supposedly) life-long commitment,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sept 2008 09:06:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>I don't buy any argument that a bunch of people of a certain type are not right-minded. It's not a qualification we apply over 18, so I don't see why we should apply it under 18.</blockquote> How low do you think is reasonable? There are plenty of nousey 12 year…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sept 2008 07:19:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						My Mum *is* a matriarch, greatgran and all that, and she had the same kind of fantasy  e  Kerry- only most of her daughters turned out to have endometriosis (or were slightly weird,like me) and her sons &ndash; well, they bred beautifully but not all that much- so she has…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sept 2008 23:41:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Even now, I think I may have made a terrible mistake, and I should've picked the archaeologist option...or maybe the chef?</p></blockquote><p>Nah. No mistake there. And you are a fisherperson and chef of the catch, as I recall from another thread .... made me realise my deprivation in the seafood…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sept 2008 22:32:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Kerry, your advice is sound, as was my mother's to me when I didnt know what on earth I wanted to really do with my life &ndash; "Just try all the options you're comfortable with."</p><p>I'd didnt find out what I really wanted to be/do/spend my working life at until…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sept 2008 16:29:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<p>There are some kids who know what they want to do from pretty young &ndash; and follow through. Then there's the ones who do what one of their parents did, be it teacher, lawyer, nurse, layabout etc.</p><p>It fascinates me how those ones who do have a set path "know"…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sept 2008 13:59:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>See, I don't agree with that for so many reasons. There are plenty of right minded teens around, but not enough in my view to warrant lowering the voting age.</p></blockquote><p>I suspect the most sensible, fact-based, polite debate to be held in parliament over the past few decades is when…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sept 2008 10:13:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>See, I don't agree with that for so many reasons. There are plenty of right minded teens around, but not enough in my view to warrant lowering the voting age.</p></blockquote><p>It strikes me that they can handle weapons of tremendous force, in the form of cars, but not vote.</p><blockquote><p>But…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sept 2008 09:35:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						.<blockquote>It's universal suffrage or bust. And let's lower the voting age, sure. Kids need a lot more of a say in how things work</blockquote> See, I don't agree with that for so many reasons. There are plenty of right minded teens around, but not enough in my view to warrant…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sept 2008 07:32:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wish it was practical for everyone to take an IQ test and a politics awareness test from the age of 16 and over and only those who score highly enough are able to vote.</p></blockquote><p>I'd agree with the idea of letting younger people vote, but the IQ and politics…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sept 2008 13:03:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wanted to vote from about the age of 11, and always wanted to be a politician. I used to be determined that I would first be PM then receive US citizenship and run for the Presidency.</p></blockquote><p>You'd have needed to change the constitution first. You can only run for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sept 2008 12:15:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>First-time Voter</title>
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						<p>I completely agree with the comment about voting. I wish it was practical for everyone to take an IQ test and a politics awareness test from the age of 16 and over and only those who score highly enough are able to vote. </p><p>I believe 16 is old enough to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sept 2008 10:44:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael Savidge</title>
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						I didn't realise it at the time but, when younger, I wanted to be a somewhat benevolent dictator.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sept 2008 23:57:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I spent some time recently with an American from California. It was his big dream to come to the clean green New Zealand. It was going to be so different and inspiring.</p></blockquote><p>We had some of the wife's rellies out from Florida and Bermuda for our wedding. We picked them…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sept 2008 20:37:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Slack</title>
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						He should totally go <a href="http://www.rotorua-business.com/china/townproject.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> for his Gap Year.
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>town planner for New Zealandtown USA.</p></blockquote><p>Surely it would have to be called Waikikamukau...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sept 2008 21:48:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>Paul, you married a Texan too? We are legion!</p><p>I'm watching the eye of the storm go over Channelview (my husband's hometown) and Baytown and head towards Liberty and Humble, where the whole family live. It's somewhat stressful... I could be pretty happy if I never had to hear the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sept 2008 21:27:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(This is a welcome distraction from 'OMG my husband's entire family in Houston is going to drown!!!' Christ that is a big hurricane.)</p></blockquote><p>in my case it's "OMG my wife's family ....", last time they evacuated, this time they're sitting still, hope they're OK</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sept 2008 21:14:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But then the secret will be out, and everyone will want their very own New Zealand town with ice cream!</p></blockquote><p>See, that's my concern. If the tourism people keep telling the world how great it is, eventually everyone will move here and then it won't be so great.</p><p>We should…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>When I grow up, I'm going to build a New Zealand town exactly the same as New Zealand, right down to the ice cream, so Americans can get a taste of what New Zealand is really like.</p></blockquote><p>But then the secret will be out, and everyone will want their very…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sept 2008 17:54:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						nice writing, what a great world you inhabit, i lost myself in it.
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>When I grow up, I'm going to build a New Zealand town exactly the same as New Zealand, right down to the ice cream, so Americans can get a taste of what New Zealand is really like.</p></blockquote><p>If he builds it near Pittsburgh, serves flat whites and includes a Burger…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sept 2008 16:35:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>When asked that pitfall of a question, I learned early on (by 6) to say,<br />"An artist" watch for the bepuzzlement or outright bafflement tinged with underlying hostility and add quickly "or a nurse."</p><p>I had no intention as a kid to ever become a nurse: this hardened by adolescence...…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sept 2008 16:25:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						Actually it is great to hear of you son's curiosity, as it is fundamentally the province of intelligence. Bright kids know the answers but very bright kids ask the questions. "The Question is the Answer". Sadly observations show that it is very rare for kids to ask questions in classrooms.…
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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