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				<title>Stephanie Chilcott</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My lad does, and "WHAT THE!" is heard rather a lot around our house</p></blockquote><p>I first came across this watching early series of Rove, before John Howard lost the Kirribilly House to live in. I have been giving him the credit ever since! Great expression for all ages.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:18:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You only got “I” wrong – it’s I-yay not I-way.</p><p>The version I learned in Wellington in the early nineties was most definitely -way after words starting with vowels, not -yay. Ialectalday ifferenceday, aybemay?</p></blockquote><p>Eery-vay ossibly-pay.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_Latin" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pig Latin</a></p><blockquote><p>In words that begin with vowel sounds or silent consonants, the syllable…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:28:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is ‘Sacha’ a Russian name meaning great leader?</p></blockquote><p>As Sacha says, "Sasha" is a nickname for Alexander, much as "Natasha" is short for "Natalia", "Vasha" for "Ivan", and so on. Shortening names + -sha is a Slavic language diminutive pattern. But Alexander does mean "defender of men" (though in Greek,…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Sacha is apparently a Eastern European diminutive for Alexander – so it’s like Jamie for James in English. Chosen for other reasons I’m told.
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				<title>sally jones</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Unsubtle put-down for him. As you were.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks Sacha, I think it worked. </p><p>Is 'Sacha' a Russian name meaning great leader? Read that somewhere. Kind of fits Sacha Baron Cohen in that case, especially in male beachwear :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:47:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You only got “I” wrong – it’s I-yay not I-way.</p></blockquote><p>The version I learned in Wellington in the early nineties was most definitely -way after words starting with vowels, not -yay. Ialectalday ifferenceday, aybemay?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:14:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well that I still don’t know much about, I’m afraid.</p></blockquote><p>Unsubtle put-down for him. As you were.</p>
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				<title>sally jones</title>
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						<p>Jackie:<br />Very thoughtful, as always. I hope you're right. <br />It's interesting how different childhood and adulthood are, when you think about it. In adulthood we're much more <em>in the world</em> &ndash; and it's a BIG place, kinda scary really. But as a child I think much of the time we're…</p>
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				<title>sally jones</title>
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						<p>Tim:</p><blockquote><p>Don’t worry Sally. We start wondering at other things and relearn how to enjoy our uncertainty. Even if it’s worrying.</p></blockquote><p>Danielle:</p><blockquote><p>I think my certainty only lasted about five minutes, if I ever had it. Then things get wondrous again</p></blockquote><p>Yes, indeed. Standard maternal overreaction. It's a reflex <em>and</em> a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:59:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						You know what I think it is, Sally? I think that all children are born with and carry with them, to a certain age, their native intuition/gut instincts/call it what you like. And then the voices start &ndash; the negative ones &ndash; telling them what and who to trust, what…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:13:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						I think my certainty only lasted about five minutes, if I ever had it. Then things get wondrous again. </sap>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:07:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						Don't worry Sally.  We start wondering at other things and relearn how to enjoy our uncertainty.  Even if it's worrying.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>has just now, aged 17, dissed the entire PA enterprise as a waste of space for old people</p></blockquote><p>Like I say, when he moves on from Bebo, let's talk</p>
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				<title>sally jones</title>
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						<p>Brilliant post Jolisa. Laughed a whole lot (and cried a bit).  </p><p>My boy, who at that age jumped up and down in the waves on Takapuna beach exclaiming 'Life is just one big beautiful thing' and watching the lava flow from a Hawaiian volcano on TV said: 'If my soft…</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						I know what you mean, Recordari, I like having my own copies of books too.  However I can't pretend to understand my partner's enthusiasm for acquiring DVDs &ndash; I'm happy just to rent them now and then. Not that I can complain as the books pile up into seismically-unstable heaps…
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						Thanks for the recommendations.  Having this somewhat possessive nature with regards to books & music, I was pleased to find Time Out had one copy in stock, which now has my name on it.  Sounds to me like one of those books to own, so that siblings can read it too,…
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Logicomix was my seasonal gift to the (then 14 yr old) offspring last year. She read it cover to cover and started asking a bunch of logic and philosophy questions immediately after and hasn't really stopped. Recommended.
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				<title>Julian Melville</title>
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						<p>ARDLE ARDLE ARDLE ARDLE ARDLE :)</p><p>Love it! (I wonder if it's a universal language? It certainly happens here)</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						It's a truly gorgeous book, Recordari. Happily, your excellent Auckland public library seems to have a few copies.
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						<blockquote><p>Logicomix</p></blockquote><p>Looks cool.  And <a href="http://www.logicomix.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=category&amp;layout=blog&amp;id=37&amp;Itemid=18" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Greeks</a> you say?</p><p>Written by;<br />Apostolos Doxiadis<br />Christos H. Papadimitriou<br />Alecos Papadatos<br />&amp;<br />Annie Di Donna, who is French.</p>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						<p>Oh, pfft. Didn't do Greek. <em>Did</em> do Latin.</p><p>Blum blum blum bli blo blo<br />Bla bla bla blorum blis blis!</p>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<p>Lovely piece of writing Jolisa &ndash; thank your boys, not just their ater-may &ndash;  as for</p><blockquote><p>Islander: Iway etbay ooyay owknay igpay atinLay, though? (Darn, bet I conjugated that wrong. Someone will correct me.)</p></blockquote><p>You only got "I" wrong &ndash; it's I-yay not I-way.</p><p>U-yay eed-nay onetic-phay elling-spay, en-way u-yay…</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Might see how she goes on 'Wittgenstein for Beginners' though. Graphic philosophy! Who knew?</p></blockquote><p>Graphic philosophy, you say? Do check out <br /><a href="http://www.logicomix.com/en/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Logicomix</a>. Aforementioned lad loved it, as did our book group.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>"Don't go there, because Daddy will get really, really boring".</p></blockquote><p>Don't go there, because daddy got his angst on?</p>
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						One of the downsides of learning philosophy &ndash; discovering paradox does not end in "Just because, all right!". That's when the fun actually begins. But only for me. Perhaps it's all the same &ndash; "Don't go there because Daddy will get angry" isn't too far removed from "Don't go there,…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:11:51 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Lovely &ndash; whenever you write about them I am struck with the urge to hang out with your boys and listen to their charming wisdom.</p><p><strong>Carol</strong> My guys have never read Footrot Flats but we get "What the..!" pretty often. Due to the influence of Terry Pratchett's <em>Wee Free Men</em>…</p>
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						<p>Lovely post Jolisa.  I'm a bit out of step here lately.  Out of touch, out of tune, and out of time maybe also, but your posts are always somehow self-affirming and remind me of why this place can by quite special.</p><p>On the part of our three, as one of…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Edit &ndash; o yeah. Y'know, there's this thing called Wi-ki-pae-di-a?<br />Marvellous eh?</p></blockquote><p>Had a decent argument about the marvellousness thereof at a conference last weekend. Apparently the tight-knit circle of nerds who control Wikipedia in their iron fist will callously delete anything scientists try to add to make it more…</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My heart gives a little flutter every time I see there is a new report from Busytown.</p></blockquote><p>And that is why I write: to set hearts aflutter, wherever they may be. Thank you, Patrick!</p>
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						<p>Ross: WhoopZ. I stand corrected re Mr FraZier. (Didn't our friend Barthes have something to say about that S/Z problem?) Sometimes I'm bilingually pedantic, sometimes I'm illiterate in both dialects of English. Drives my spellchecker bonkers.</p><p>Rob: *blush* I am not worthy to touch the hem of Socrates' toga. I…</p>
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						Just noticed you said it was based on an incidence at Ikea. Surely for that, there is extra added pathos. Or even bathos.
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						<p>Act I is my favourite. I think I know that chorus...</p><p>Well worth the wait &ndash; thank you!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Tip of the hat to Ian Frasier</p></blockquote><p>Heh. Good yo see you anglisiZed the spelling of Frasier!!</p><p>And you say it all started in la-can.</p><blockquote><p>Also, penises are funny</p></blockquote><p>Ahhhh...."we" can't let them go can "we".</p><p>Thoth. I thought that wath when the thoap wath usthed too mucth and it…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Genius, Jolissa. Thanks. And great as the ad-linked sermon from Ian Fazier is, I swear unto you by the toenails of Socrates, your epistles are finer!
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Shout "WHAT THE!"</p></blockquote><p>Do the young gentlemen read <em>Footrot Flats</em>, by any chance? <br />My lad does, and  "WHAT THE!" is heard rather a lot around our house, along with "CRIPES!" (usually reserved for situations of greater stress).</p>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						Delightful post, young Jolisa &mdash; very very clever!
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<sigh> They're like computers. Total logic.
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						<blockquote><p>Make sure that they have the language to boss each other around. Because children bossing each other around is always so much more satisfactory. They revel in it.</p></blockquote><p>A moment in our house the other day. Boys bossing each other around. From the sidelines, I interpose some adult wisdom: "Guys,…</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Ayay!</p><p>(Anyone know why it's called 'pig Latin'? I have teh dictionaries, but most are currently packed awaiting transportation elsewhere.</p><p>Edit &ndash; o yeah. Y'know, there's this thing called Wi-ki-pae-di-a?<br />Marvellous eh?</p>
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						<p><strong>the desert errata for a new age...</strong><br />but really it's all Greek to me...</p><p><em>aporia</em> = imponderable indigestion</p><p><em>mythos</em> = an epic operating system</p><p><em>dianoia</em> = being paranoid about Scientology (Dianetics)</p><p><em>perepeteia</em> = father fizzles</p><p><em>opsis</em> = it's not too far from there to oopsies (spectacular fail)</p><p><em>melos</em> = going…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>This post is probably my favourite thing that has ever happened.</p></blockquote><p>Awww. Thank you. Actually, thank the boys for being such obliging nutters and supplying me with material. It was just a moment in the loo at Ikea, and then look. </p><p>That song is horrendous, and the video even worse.…</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh, so true, Jolisa. Part of the reasonI am there is to set up/manipulate the environment in a way that encourages active exploration; to prompt discussion as interest serves; and to ensure that rolling around in the dust happens frequently. Oh, and also? Make sure that they have the language…
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						<p>Jackie &ndash; the child leading the child. They're very good at it, aren't they?</p><p>I meant to say in the thread about your awesome post, that I finally saw the film <a href="http://www.filminfocus.com/babies" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Babies</a> the other night. Have you seen it? It's editorially reticent (no voiceover, no subtitles), but full of quiet…</p>
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						<p>This post is probably my favourite thing that has ever happened.</p><p>Also, this:</p><blockquote><p>All Magic 8 Balls are liars.</p></blockquote><p>Gave me an earworm (and that's the truth).</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6hzkBihaew" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6hzkBihaew</a></p><p>(Awesomely, I just realised that it contains an ahead-of-its-time Rickroll.)</p>
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				<title>Patrick Xavier</title>
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						My heart gives a little flutter every time I see there is a new report from Busytown.  I defer reading to the end of the day, and am never disappointed.  And again.
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Pedagogy,  you say? I have always believed that that was what <em>I</em> had, and not the child.  You are, or course, quite right. That is very obviously pedagogy.
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>Merc, thank you for that link. It is a long time since I have seen that movie, but Beatrice and her charms are imprinted firmly on my brain. Also, poetry.  Poetry conquers all!</p><p>Islander: Iway etbay ooyay owknay igpay atinLay, though? (Darn, bet I conjugated that wrong. Someone will correct…</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Brekekekek coax coax."</p><p>My 2.5 year old is learning Greek too!</p></blockquote><p>Kudos! <br />;-)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And also, what would you call it when a child says to another child...</p></blockquote><p>You know what, I bet that counts as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedagogy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">pedagogy</a>. Possibly pedapedagogy, tho' I a not a Greek expert.</p><blockquote><p>shining and heroic acts of individualism in this world of mundanity and loss of self.</p></blockquote><p>Lovely words, Jackie.…</p>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						<p>Well, I'm really <strong>glad</strong> you blogged it now. Truly funny. I grew up with three younger brothers, and was reminded <em>totally</em> of being the <em>sane</em> older sister in a madhouse.</p><p>So glad you enjoy them. May it last forever.</p>
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						<p>"Brekekekek coax coax."</p><p>My 2.5 year old is learning Greek too!</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh, how I do love your boys. Just love them. Love their facility with language. Love their conceptual quirks. Love, love, love their shining and heroic acts of individualism in this world of mundanity and loss of self. Don't tell them that though. They would doubtless think it was icky.…
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						<p>That was very funny indeed!<br />(Knows no Greek &amp; little Latin so can not possibly comment on tech-terms...)</p>
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						<p>Footnotes:<br />1. This was written in late (US) summer but superseded at literally the last second by the Christchurch earthquake, which made this piece seem suddenly too flippant. But here it is, as promised at the time.</p><p>2. I did not take a single Classics paper at university so all…</p>
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