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						<p>Speaking of art, I used the tightest COVID levels to revisit a long-neglected hobby of mine. It's online for the world to see at DeviantArt and Renderosity:</p><p><a href="https://www.deviantart.com/deepred6502" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.deviantart.com/deepred6502</a><br /><a href="https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/gallery/?uid=64652" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/gallery/?uid=64652</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 16:47:10 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Apologies for the thread necro, but I’ve finally found the time to post an epilogue. The issues I wrote about in August 2017 are still very much relevant, despite an electoral reprieve both here and overseas.</p><p>The good news: in the middle of last year, I graduated from web dev…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2020 18:38:41 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Also, I missed this one:</p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/07/artificial-intelligence-homo-sapiens-split-handful-gods" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Artificial intelligence: ‘Homo sapiens will be split into a handful of gods and the rest of us’</a></p><p>__Robotisation has reduced the number of working hours needed to make things; but at the same time as workers have been laid off from production lines, new jobs…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2018 17:11:26 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Further wisdom from "recovering neo-liberal" Joseph Stiglitz on automation:</p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/sep/08/joseph-stiglitz-on-artificial-intelligence-were-going-towards-a-more-divided-society" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Joseph Stiglitz on artificial intelligence: 'We’re going towards a more divided society'</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:52:05 +1200</pubDate>
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						__ <strong>New Zealand ranks in the bottom third of the OECD for spending on what are known as active labour market policies</strong> &ndash; government interventions to help people into meaningful new work. The organisation's report last year said Work and Income focuses largely on people receiving benefits, which only includes…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2018 03:23:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>It’s long overdue for a movie adaptation</q><br />Apparently <a href="https://www.abaa.org/book/631353799" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Alan Arkin had a go at a screenplay for it...</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 07:03:20 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Fun fact: Kurt Vonnegut wrote about these topics in the novel "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Player Piano</a>" in 1952. Yes, the same year Helsinki held the Summer Olympics.</p><p>It's long overdue for a movie adaptation, although player pianos are a bit obsolete these days. They've been replaced with autoplay streaming media, so when someone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 22:21:55 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Ann Pettifor, one of the few who correctly predicted the Great Recession, further reinforces what I wrote to begin with.</p><p><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/sunday/audio/2018640732/economist-ann-pettifor-the-public-are-not-stupid" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">RNZ Sunday Morning &ndash; Economist Ann Pettifor: 'The public are not stupid'</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:40:39 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Full transcript now available:</p><p><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/insight/audio/2018637427/insight-is-nz-ready-for-artificial-intelligence" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">RNZ Insight: Is NZ Ready for Artificial Intelligence?</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:38:22 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>No, new tech in itself doesn’t cause job losses. Rentier statists (such as Peter Thiel) that own and control most of the new tech do.</p><p><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018637405/insight-new-tech-won-t-cause-mass-job-losses-in-nz-study" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">RNZ Insight: New tech won’t cause mass job losses in NZ – study</a></p><p>__Automation and artificial intelligence **may not cause the mass unemployment that is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:58:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						Ah, LSD....
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:00:15 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>In light of Stephen Hawking's passing, here's <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/3nyn5i/science_ama_series_stephen_hawking_ama_answers/cvsdmkv/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a response by him</a> from a Reddit AMA session from 2 years ago:</p><p>__I'm rather late to the question-asking party, but I'll ask anyway and hope. Have you thought about the possibility of technological unemployment, where we develop automated processes that ultimately cause…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:43:57 +1300</pubDate>
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						The Economist finally <a href="https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21730412-time-fresh-thinking-about-changing-economics-geography-right-way-help-declining" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">acknowledges that elephant-curve globalisation has fomented Brexitrump-ist nativist-protectionist populism</a>. As for solutions, it still seems hamstrung by a classical liberal world-view. In any case it seems the best way forward is to rescue distressed workers (offering financial aid to adapt & retool) rather than distressed companies (bailouts with…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:14:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>They could have been makeing small things out of silicon by now.</q></p><p>Like, teeny-weeny versions of <a href="https://ehive.com/collections/3384/objects/490167/collection-of-bobbin-insulators" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">these</a>?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:13:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>I may have used one of those, as part of a Scout Jamboree somewhere, but beige plastic thing with handles, all smooth-ish plastic and I can't remember any of the details. </q></p><p>I was employed by Polycorp (a subsidiary of Progeni) to sell them. Yep, big beige plastic cover (screen, board,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:03:16 +1300</pubDate>
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						One other aspect I didn't mention in my original post: when bailouts are inevitable, there's a visible difference in approach between the Anglo-Saxon model and the Nordic model. Long story short, Anglo-Saxon economies tend to bail out distressed corporations with no guarantee of ROI &ndash; think British Leyland, GM, and…
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						<p><q>It seemed less hackable than the C64 I had somehow managed to acquire ($1000 was a lot of money back then).</p><p>At that time the hacker community was ham radio based for the most part (unless you wanted to do TV with the Christians). I got some valuable help from…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2017 20:41:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>The kind of polytech that helped produce the Poly-1?</q></p><p>I may have used one of those, as part of a Scout Jamboree somewhere, but beige plastic thing with handles, all smooth-ish plastic and I can't remember any of the details. It seemed less hackable than the C64 I had somehow…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:18:11 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Polytech used to be great, you'd pay $50 for six months of weekly evening classes in a workshop where you could generally work on your own vaguely-related project under expert supervision).</q></p><p>The kind of polytech that helped produce the Poly-1? The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poly-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wikipedia entry</a> for it is courtesy of yours truly.…</p>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q> I'd build a huge workshop where people could...</q></p><p>There are "maker spaces" around Aotearoa, as well as other community workshops. If you're a man there's the men's shed movement, there are often similar things that are more inclusive if you search. Search is cheap now we have the internet, what…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:45:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Jacinda Ardern says that metalwork was one of her favourite subjects at school. Perhaps she could incorporate your idea into her agenda. It would fit into their policies for education, night classes, employment and mental health. <br />But we need a network of such workshops around NZ, not just one.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2017 13:07:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Prudence</title>
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						<p>What a fantastic read. Thank you. <br />If I had a million dollars or more, I'd build a huge workshop where people could build things and repair things, fitted out with awesome woodworking, metal working, and automotive machinery. Community owned and managed, with paid tutors for those who need them. <br />What…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2017 00:28:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hans Versluys</title>
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						Thanks for the interesting read. It also brings home the urgent need for UBI to allow everybody to figure out at their own pace what they want out of life, without the massive stress of "sink-or-swim" bearing down on you.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:01:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lisa Black</title>
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						That was a good read. Thanks.
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I really hope that Specialisterne sets up in NZ. I've been a fan of the idea since hearing Thorkil Sonne speak about it many years ago. It wouldn't suit my family, but could provide real employment opportunities for many.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Thanks KR. This is fascinating – and helpful to me. I do a lot of thinking about my sons, education and work.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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