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		<title>Public Address | Cafe | Access: Some aspects of New Zealand’s disability history – part one</title>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>YES!!!!</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/63482391/IHC-arm-admits-part-in-bath-drowning" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/63482391/IHC-arm-admits-part-in-bath-drowning</a></p><p>Nathan Booker's death at the hands of Idea Services.</p><p>Charged and convicted....and in the "crimes" section where it belongs.</p><p>A tiny,  little win.</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Oh dear,  oh dear,  oh deary me......</p><p>Local hospital today,  we were heading for the exit as a young man with Downs and his mum were on their way in.</p><p>Mum stood well back as the young man approached the volunteer 'help desk' to ask about blood tests. </p><p> I heard…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2014 22:48:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Luck. I just wanted people to hear a good feminist anthem and go and see that great movie Pride.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:29:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Hilary, Doc, you did just  fine.</p><p>Like a pro....</p><p>and hot on the heels of the Robert Martin interview!</p><p>Was that serendipitous?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:10:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q> You appear to be assuming that high need means only physical impairment, that’s all.</q></p><p>No, no, no, no, no!!!!</p><p>I could not have made my message anymore confusing if I'd tried.</p><p>If I have an area of particular interest it is what has become known as the Family Carers Case...more…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:07:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Thank you Rosemary. I was thrown by the Dr bit (which I only use on funding applications) and that he wanted to talk about autism. But hopefully got a little bit of disability stuff in. Have great admiration for people who talk easily on the radio.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:29:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Other groups of disabled people such as those with impaired thinking also may have a high ongoing need for care services. You appear to be assuming that high need means only physical impairment, that's all.</p><p>One of the things preventing significant progress in disability politics is our fragmentation, mainly caused…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:04:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Again,  Hilary you hit the nail squarely on its head.</p><p>Unfortunately,  this is unlikely to happen unless the organisations representing the interests of disabled (and famiy carers) speak out loudly and clearly against government policies that perpetuate this gross disparity.</p><p>This will not happen unless this.... <a href="http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mnr/mnr-20141120-0735-community_groups_silenced_by_fear_of_funding_cuts-048.mp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mnr/mnr-20141120-0735-community_groups_silenced_by_fear_of_funding_cuts-048.mp3</a></p><p>issue is addressed.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:59:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Now that Andrew Little is Labour Party leader I would like to see him progress something he flagged a couple of years ago when he was ACC Spokesperson. He noted the inequitable disability funding between ACC and MoH and asked why and what could be done about that? But he…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:20:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>    the HIGHEST care needs</p><p>As I’ve said before, I’d caution against that assumption. It certainly doesn’t help collective action.</q></p><p>At some point Sacha...would it be possible to discuss this?</p><p>I am not sure what the issue is with me using this term.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:15:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>That means there is often no one in the hospital setting who knows the person’s needs. Some deaths have occured in recent years through such things as feeding issues. In busy hospital wards there is not usually the staff time to provde the extra attention. </q></p><p>Hah!!!</p><p>When HWMBO was in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:08:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I think there is some variety around the country. For example, Capital Coast, Hutt and Wairarapa now share one committee. I would be interested to hear whether any of the DSACs around the country have any influence on practice.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:06:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Some DHBs still have disability committees and some have a bit of staff specialism but that does not mean crucial support in the ward situation.</q></p><p>The ineffectiveness of those advisory committess is revealed whenever action requires budget rather than gum-flapping.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:39:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Double-dipping? Grrrr. Health agencies still have a way to go to understand health and disability are not the same thing. That reflects a disgusting lack of investment in leading better understanding.</p><p><q>One man pointed out that the DHB could have trouble getting up-to-date statistics on deaf people, since that question…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:36:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p>Sorry, I forgot to put the slavery link in -oops<br /><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/259584/hundreds-&#039;live-as-slaves&#039;-in-nz" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/259584/hundreds-&#039;live-as-slaves&#039;-in-nz</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:39:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						Agreed, I have found that I need to move in to the hospital when my daughter is unwell. MOH funding does not cover carer support when a person is in hospital, they call it double dipping as they seem to think that the hospital staff can always provide adequate support.…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:07:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						Here's another piece from the news that got me thinking about our disability services. It talks about slavery and exploitation, without clearly defining them, but we have government sanctioned exploitation of family caregivers providing many hours of care to our most disabled people and living on one of the lowest…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:00:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						At the moment some disabled people who have a caregiver cannot use that caregiver's paid services while in hospital. That means there is often no one in the hospital setting who knows the person's needs. Some deaths have occured in recent years through such things as feeding issues. In busy…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:51:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p>Here's one of the major current problems we have in our health system, brought up in a genuine consultation process by some of the people affected:<br /><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/259586/disabled-services-&#039;left-out&#039;-of-dhb-plan" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/259586/disabled-services-&#039;left-out&#039;-of-dhb-plan</a><br />Some health boards do have managers with responsibility for services for people with disabilities, but actual change at the nursing stations is extremely…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Here is link to Robert's interview with Kathryn Ryan <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/20157519/new-zealand&#039;s-candidate-for-the-united-nations-committee-on-the-rights-of-persons-with-disabilities-for-the-2016-election-robert-martin" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/20157519/new-zealand&#039;s-candidate-for-the-united-nations-committee-on-the-rights-of-persons-with-disabilities-for-the-2016-election-robert-martin</a>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Interview with Robert Martin on Radio NZ this morning (after 10) talking about his biography Becoming a Person which includes his story of institutionalisation.
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						Well said, you are so right. We have governments follow various political and other agendas, and when it comes to COSTS, most governments will not shy away from rolling back social and health policy achievements, in order to “balance the books”. They may at the same time offer tax cuts…
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						That's what I'm getting at, yes.
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						Perhaps this is a discussion to pursue another time.  The fact is that sometimes we work against each other and that is unhelpful, it demeans all of us.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:06:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						That there are not other groups of disabled people with high needs. Discussed on a previous thread.
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						What assumption Sacha?
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						<p><q>the HIGHEST care needs</q></p><p>As I've said before, I’d caution against that assumption. It certainly doesn’t help collective action.</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p>and further to that, eugenics occurring in practice with some families visiting from Australia in order to sterilise children, which remains permissible in this country.</p><p>However, population changes mean that this treatment of the disabled community as "other" has become far more difficult. If we were more unified,  a quarter…</p>
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						<p>I have been surprised by some people's reactions to the original post that surely NZ wasn't as eugenic as other countries, weren't we nicer? </p><p>The reality is that governments govern for those like them (ie basically well-off white able bodied males). Any of our progressive policies such as votes for…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>It is important to review our history on a regular basis,  if only to provide a baseline for comparison with the present,  and make predictions about potential futures.</p><p>This is what the Ministry of Health is saying today,</p><p>''The Ministry of Health is committed to giving people with disabilities and…</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p>This is the sort of problem we have with our fragmented system<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/10689206/Family-seeks-support-providing-for-disabled-son" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/10689206/Family-seeks-support-providing-for-disabled-son</a><br />If this child's condition was the result of an accident, the family would have the vehicle fully funded by ACC, and the mother would not be risking her own health because of needing to lift him.</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p>After I had taken considerable trouble to provide detailed and largely negative feedback on the FFC process to the MOH, this is what Jill Lane as their media spokesperson had to say:</p><p>"We've had no complaints from these people who have joined the system that it's been difficult or that…</p>
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						<p>I welcome any history of the experience of the families and carers of disabled people over the timeframe Hilary covers here. Huge change from families being expected to support disabled relatives on the farm to putting them in state institutions.</p><p>Next chapter is the transition out of that, and yet…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:05:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>And just to belabour the point,  lest we forget, this is what the Ministry of Health thinks of disabled persons and their families.</p><p>" and it takes time for disabled people and their families to take up new options when they come available, we see that routinely with every other…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 22:38:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>No,  Hillary,  I had not heard that there was to be a review of FFC....great...but I share Angela Hart's sceptisim....we are talking about the Misery of Health here....and if Carers NZ are representing all of us carers.....abandon ye all hope.</p><p>However....Funded Family Care got more than an passing mention in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 22:10:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>He's a hero</q></p><p>Indeed. Tried to buy copy online but defeated by website.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:51:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability/?p=331129#post331129</link>
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						<p>Great to hear Robert Martin's biography written by John McRae has finally been published. <a href="http://www.craigpotton.co.nz/store/becoming-a-person" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.craigpotton.co.nz/store/becoming-a-person</a><br />In shops now. Can't wait to read it. I read an early draft and used some of Robert's information for earlier Access posts. He's a hero.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 20:53:35 +1300</pubDate>
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						Current Disability Commissioner Paul Gibson was officially lobbying against continued sterilisation of New Zealand women not that long ago.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:49:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Sterilisation of undesirable people has been widespread everywhere and remnants remain with the debates about the sterilisation of disabled girls and women in many countries.</q></p><p>Most recently in New Zealand, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&amp;objectid=10687173" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:35:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						If you want to be part of the review the MOH contact is Christine Petch, she can pass your contact details to the people who will be paid to do the review.  CarersNZ have failed to explain this, preferring to channel traffic themselves. They are likely to be the only…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:10:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Did you hear that the FFC policy is having a review? Apparently hardly anyone took it up (as we could have told them with all those draconian conditions) and the fund is hugely underspent. Fancy that. The review is not on the Ministry of Health website but Carers NZ know…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 12:22:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Sweden has a shameful eugenics past that was only revealed in the 1990s. But most countries do. </q></p><p>Having a chuckle here,  Hilary.</p><p>Peter and I spend most of our time tiki touring and meeting up with allsorts on the road.</p><p>Fellow travellers/campers from all over the world.</p><p>At the moment…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 12:01:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Sweden has a shameful eugenics past that was only revealed in the 1990s. But most countries do. Sterilisation of undesirable people has been widespread everywhere and remnants remain with the debates about the sterilisation of disabled girls and women in many countries.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:05:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>Well, well, well, I thought that it was the Nazis that were blamed for all this kind of stuff, but New Zealand and other countries seem to have been doing the same, but did in the end not go quite as far as Germany did under Hitler and his criminal…</q>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:49:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Thank you Craig. Can it apply to social movements rather than professional orgs?</p><p>(Sorry the Reply linking system is broken at the moment for me).</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:35:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						Someone needs to lobby/cajole/harass/shame academic publishers into funding volumes about disabled histories.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:24:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						It's a term used in organisational psychology and human resource management. It means the set of values,norms, expectations and professional practice and its directives that adhere within particular organisations.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:22:44 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>occupational culture </q></p><p>can you explain this further for me – not a term I’ve seen.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:07:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>I have a memory of seeing a movie of Intensive Care, many decades ago.</p><p>Yes need to have more disability history in mainstream histories, in museum exhibitions, art etc. Most of our big written histories overlook disability altogether, apart from the occasional reference to mental illness. I have just been…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:02:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						Ah, Intensive Care, my favourite Frame novel. I would love some talented media figure  to film the last third of that book and its nightmarish anodyne future of disability cleansing in post-apocalyptic NZ. Heavy hint hint to anyone tempted to do so :)
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:18:39 +1300</pubDate>
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						Depends on the group's occupational culture and origins, really. I got seriously annoyed with the conservative leadership of a mental health consumers group I belonged to, given that I supported a citizenship and social justice model of psychiatric disability and she seemed to believe that it should just be a…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:15:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						Granted Will, but it was only comparatively recently that Gallaudet elected a Deaf president. There was a massive furore with its Deaf students and staff beforehand, let it be noted. Am I the only one (my partner's niece is Deaf) who'd love something similar to Gallaudet here?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:11:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						Am I the only one who wants much, much more about disabled perspective histories within Aotearoa/New Zealand?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:09:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>We have in New Zealand created two classes of people with disabilities.</p><p>Those with serious, permanent impairments under ACC enjoy rights, entitlements and supports that those with exactly the same disability under MOH can only dream of.</p><p>Somehow,  we,  as a nation think this is OK.</p><p>It isn’t.</p><p>This needs…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:48:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Oops, thanks.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 22:39:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Hope more people dive in and have a go at writing their versions/stories</q></p><p>Same. Thank you for getting us started.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 22:26:55 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>The performance of regulatory agencies is part of it, contract obligations are part of it, but more broadly there is a curious passivity not obvious in other disadvantaged groups. A high value placed on being a good boy lest matron withdraw privileges, that sort of thing. </p><p>So I'm not confident…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 22:24:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q> too many disability leaders – a real reluctance to stand up to power.</q></p><p>because.....</p><p><a href="http://www.victoria.ac.nz/sacs/pdf-files/Fears-constraints-and-contracts-Grey-and-Sedgwick-2014.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.victoria.ac.nz/sacs/pdf-files/Fears-constraints-and-contracts-Grey-and-Sedgwick-2014.pdf</a></p><p>Imagine,  if,  in an alternate universe,  one quarter of the one quarter of the population of Aotearoa who identify as disabled paid $10 per year to support an organisation who would truly represent the interests…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 21:37:53 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>A few years ago the government had set up a committee, which decided to abolish the Mental Health Commission. </p><p><a href="http://my.lawsociety.org.nz/news/2012/committee-endorses-abolition-of-mental-health-commission" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://my.lawsociety.org.nz/news/2012/committee-endorses-abolition-of-mental-health-commission</a></p><p>The position of the Mental Health Commissioner was shifted into the Office of the Health and Disability Commissioner, and for a few years now Dr Lynne Lane has held that…</p>
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						<p>Quoted: "In this context, Plunket was started in 1907 to train mothers to grow healthy little citizens and soldiers for the empire. Founder Truby King, who had a physical impairment, later became Inspector General of Health.</p><p>He, his wife and supporters were positive eugenists who believed that teaching mothers the…</p>
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				<title>Will de Cleene</title>
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						<p>My old man was a bit of a eugenicist, which was why I spent a great deal of my childhood hiding my deafness.</p><p>I did a bit of research into the history of deaf policy, seeing how most NZ histories on the subject tend to be school biographies, with all…</p>
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						4th paragraph &ndash; should be "1846 lunatics ordinance"
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						I’m talking more recently. There’s a real passivity in the way some people think of themselves and their potential for action. It’s deeply encultured and makes perfect sense if your life depended on institutions.
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						<p><q>It has also affected the culture around too many disability leaders – a real reluctance to stand up to power</q></p><p>You’re right, Sacha-few too many individually focussed souls around but there’s another aspect to it too- there may have been a lot more standing up that was done, but it…</p>
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						<p><q>This is a version of State Power and its proponents in New Zealand that doesn’t often get explored, but somehow it still affects us today in many ways.</q></p><p>It has also affected the culture around too many disability leaders – a real reluctance to stand up to power.</p>
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				<title>David Herkt</title>
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						<p>I particularly found the quoted poem interesting.</p><p>    “Oh Mother, save me from Dr. Gray</p><p>    ‘Cause teacher says he’s coming to-day</p><p>    And if I’m stupid he’ll take me away…’</p><p>In Janet Frame’s novels [including the vastly under-rated 'Intensive Care'], there are many variants on this, in verse and in prose. Frame…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 13:05:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Hope more people dive in and have a go at writing their versions/stories.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 11:44:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WaterDragon</title>
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						As I read and think about this, I re-know how much of our disabled history is left unknown. This good summary represents one of many strands, most of which are unknown, let alone subject to any serious analysis. There isn't "A" disability history for NZ, but there's so often a…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 10:31:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2014 10:31:14 +1300</pubDate>
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