Public Address | Cafe | Access: Some aspects of New Zealand’s disability history – part four https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=368720#post368720 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=368720#post368720 I didn’t get an invitation to the launch. Rosemary, did you?

The (recently instituted) Interweb Generated Guffaw of the Day Award to you Hilary!

(And here's me hoping that you got an invite and would tell us what they dished up for breakkie.)

I am pretty sure that the CEO…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2016 18:35:08 +1300 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=368716#post368716 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=368716#post368716 Thu, 01 Dec 2016 16:33:39 +1300 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=368707#post368707 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=368707#post368707 On this Day...Disability Pride Day and the day that the New New Zealand Disability Strategy is launched in a dawn breaker at parliament, I am heartened by the interview with Chief Ombudsman Peter Boshier on Natrad this morning.

In my opinion, the New Strategy is exactly what the Government ordered.…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2016 12:21:51 +1300 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340248#post340248 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340248#post340248 From the Carers NZ newsletter

Funded Family Care: What now?

TVNZ would like to interview some family carers for a feature story about the Funded Family Care payment. After all the years of human rights action, are things any better for carers? The Ministry of Health is considering a report…

]]> Mon, 11 May 2015 15:43:39 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340114#post340114 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340114#post340114 And this...http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/273106/historical-abuse-claims-process-criticised

with wise words from a survivor.

"He said the Government's fast-track scheme was a way of getting the victim backlog down as easily as possible.

"They're trying to make it go away," he said.

Mr Mahy said the United Nations Torture Committee was to give the New Zealand…

]]> Fri, 08 May 2015 12:12:43 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340113#post340113 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340113#post340113 http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/545301/Hamilton-mans-ACC-campaign-over-mental-trauma-finally-prevails ]]> Fri, 08 May 2015 12:05:33 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340109#post340109 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340109#post340109 Fri, 08 May 2015 11:32:47 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340103#post340103 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340103#post340103 Now this could be a very interesting discussion....this comes to mind...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/29482/Gang-shooting-a-workplace-accident-ACC

quite bizarre, but shows the extent of ACC's power to find someone, anyone, responsible.

These people were in the care of employees of the State, and they were undoubtably harmed.

ACC could accept their claims....and ACC could chase…

]]> Fri, 08 May 2015 10:25:54 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340101#post340101 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340101#post340101 there could be grounds for these people to make a claim through ACC

only if they can argue it was an accident

]]> Fri, 08 May 2015 10:16:03 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340086#post340086 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340086#post340086 'The State broke me when I was a teenager and the State has a responsibility to fix me, whatever it takes'.

Funny to see it described like that.

Last night, when re listening to the February Natrad piece, I couldn't help thinking that there could be grounds for these people…

]]> Fri, 08 May 2015 09:04:19 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340084#post340084 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340084#post340084 Fri, 08 May 2015 08:03:16 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340052#post340052 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340052#post340052 And this, from February....decent 30 minute slot.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/20150209

]]> Thu, 07 May 2015 19:18:16 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340049#post340049 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340049#post340049 I just rolled my eyeballs out of my head.

Miserable, miserly, contemptuous bastards.

]]> Thu, 07 May 2015 18:34:39 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340045#post340045 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340045#post340045 I do hope these people have GOOD advocacy

Lawyer acting on behalf of some told RNZ this plan allocates only about half of what's needed. Typical.

]]> Thu, 07 May 2015 18:04:41 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340043#post340043 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340043#post340043 Thank you Angela. This young man was known to our family and the circumstances of his death greatly affected us.

One year ago.... https://newzealandjustice.com/content.php?558-Anger-over-lack-of-charges

Then....http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/67213437/Nathan-Bookers-death-totally-preventable-says-judge

And now, an individual held personally accountable.

Here's hoping there is a fair trial, and all the facts and circumstances are thoroughly discussed.

People in…

]]> Thu, 07 May 2015 17:57:35 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340030#post340030 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340030#post340030 Rosemary, the police have laid a manslaughter charge for Nathan Booker's death.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/68359014/woman-arrested-following-death-of-palmerston-north-teen-in-respite-care

]]> Thu, 07 May 2015 15:42:23 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340024#post340024 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340024#post340024 You beat me to it Hilary.

When I heard that 'happy' news, my immediate thought was..."What nasty tricks are these miserable sods up to this time?"

Then, I told myself...."Don't be silly Rosemary, you're just a cynical, suspicious, untrusting so and so!"

I do hope these people have GOOD advocacy.…

]]> Thu, 07 May 2015 14:00:00 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340008#post340008 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=340008#post340008 Thu, 07 May 2015 12:08:18 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339957#post339957 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339957#post339957 Andrew Geddis strikes again....

http://pundit.co.nz/content/theres-none-so-deaf-as-they-that-will-not-hear

"And we're telling you that if you want to stop courts retrospectively upholding the rights of citizens, you must be absolutely crystal clear that this is what you are about.

Oh ... and nyah, nyah, nyah to you for even trying to keep us out…

]]> Wed, 06 May 2015 20:05:34 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339878#post339878 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339878#post339878 In a nutshell, the Appeal Court is telling the Government that they can't pass legislation to make legal what had been found to be illegal and take away the right of affected parties to complain.

If that was the governments intention...they should have spent more time on formulating the ammendment.…

]]> Tue, 05 May 2015 11:46:05 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339877#post339877 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339877#post339877 Tue, 05 May 2015 11:32:04 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339876#post339876 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339876#post339876 http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/68270809/court-says-carer-of-disabled-adult-can-sue-for-compensation

This is the other stuff piece that came out last night....a little less mangled...and has Paul Gibson (hero) making the comment...

"said the Court of Appeal's decision was important. "Family carers are still fighting to be paid adequately."

He asked the Government to reconsider its whole approach to paying…

]]> Tue, 05 May 2015 11:22:57 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339874#post339874 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339874#post339874 Thanks Rosemary, it certainly wasn't clear from the article that "benefit" meant support payments from MOH, whose disability support system is predicated on the belief that no-one has entitlement to support.

The implication then becomes that MOH withdrew whatever support was in place to pay other caregivers (not mum) when…

]]> Tue, 05 May 2015 10:25:23 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339873#post339873 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339873#post339873 There is a little confusion with the terminology used during this entire process....ramped up more during the Spencer case. I am not sure the source of the confusion...but ...when they talk about 'benefit' they are actually meaning the payment for providing the assessed level of care.

The wage paid to…

]]> Tue, 05 May 2015 09:41:50 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339872#post339872 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339872#post339872 and here’s a piece which shows how nasty some government departments can be in these cases, by way of e-mail read in court

The last sentence in that link is really chilling. There was a Down syndrome girl in my sister’s class at St. Joseph’s Primary, Levin, in the early…

]]> Tue, 05 May 2015 08:44:30 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339869#post339869 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339869#post339869 and here's a piece which shows how nasty some government departments can be in these cases, by way of e-mail read in court
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/68267835/mum-wins-latest-round-in-care-payment-fight

The likelihood is that Spencer lost the right to a benefit because she became eligible for 29.5 hours at minimum wage weekly under funded family care.…

]]> Mon, 04 May 2015 23:32:10 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339868#post339868 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339868#post339868 Well, well, well.....

Our Friends on the Bench have delivered a full frontal criticism of the Part4A ammendment of the PHDAct.

"It contained a number of features that are traditionally regarded as being contrary to sound constitutional law and convention –"

"The draconian measures introduced in s 70B(2)(c) to remove…

]]> Mon, 04 May 2015 23:22:05 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339844#post339844 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339844#post339844 Mon, 04 May 2015 18:23:32 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339839#post339839 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339839#post339839 Actually, one of the lawyers on the 'good' side used to be a lawyer for the MOH.

Oh, the irony.

Again, the judiciary did their job....and applied the Law.

This will go to the Supreme Court, methinks.

]]> Mon, 04 May 2015 17:50:21 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339836#post339836 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339836#post339836 Mon, 04 May 2015 17:33:28 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339830#post339830 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339830#post339830 The can gets another kick....

https://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/from/decisions/judgments

AG for the MOH v Margaret Spencer....Appeal Dismissed!

]]> Mon, 04 May 2015 17:01:55 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339284#post339284 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339284#post339284 Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:03:10 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339283#post339283 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339283#post339283 Yep. And so often it is the sober grandparents who care for the FAS children as the parent's alchohol abuse precludes parenting even a child without the added issues of brain injury.

And we should also talk about the children damaged in utero by other substance abuse. Pot, solvents, legal…

]]> Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:38:52 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339282#post339282 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339282#post339282 Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:30:16 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339272#post339272 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339272#post339272 Not all disabled children are blessed with family who are able and willing to provide the care and support needed to keep them safe and healthy and reaching their potential.

The disabled children in foster care of my acquaintance were lucky enough to be placed in care early ( before…

]]> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 22:05:19 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339271#post339271 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339271#post339271 Or it will go to the Supreme Court and we'll all be dust by the time its done.

given how thoroughly stupefied the 'oppostition' have been, that seems a reasonable expectation. #ashtoashes

]]> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 21:25:02 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339270#post339270 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339270#post339270 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 21:20:46 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339269#post339269 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339269#post339269 Informal discussions with staff from MOH and CYF indicate that children are entering care under section 142 care agreements so that they can be placed in adult residential placements, because of a lack of placement options in the community.
That is disgusting, I am horrified. There is no way in…

]]> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 21:13:27 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339267#post339267 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339267#post339267 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 19:34:37 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339263#post339263 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339263#post339263 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:33:05 +1200 Christine Peet https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339256#post339256 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339256#post339256 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:40:05 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339254#post339254 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339254#post339254 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:21:38 +1200 Christine Peet https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339253#post339253 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339253#post339253 Thinking of the at least 1/2 dozen other Miserly of Health: Disability Support Services clients of our acquaintance who are also living in blissfull sin with their opposite sex partner.

Guess they knew not to fess up…

I'm curious to know what you mean by this Rosemary?

]]> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:12:29 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339251#post339251 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339251#post339251 http://www.otago.ac.nz/disabilitystudiesconference/papers/Rights%20gap%20for%20children%20with%20disabilities.pdf ]]> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:18:32 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339243#post339243 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339243#post339243 MSD is reviewing children in aged care – but not younger adults


Surely they're not in aged care but housed with families not their own, foster care or youth facilities?

]]> Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:15:59 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339240#post339240 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339240#post339240 and at a policy advocacy level, what have the main DPOs been doing for the last decade on this?

Paying lip service, and serving their paymasters.

]]> Sat, 25 Apr 2015 20:30:57 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339237#post339237 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339237#post339237 Surely this is work that the MS Society should be doing....sorting this shit out?

and at a policy advocacy level, what have the main DPOs been doing for the last decade on this?

]]> Sat, 25 Apr 2015 18:58:46 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339235#post339235 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339235#post339235 Sat, 25 Apr 2015 18:36:31 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339233#post339233 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339233#post339233 Sacha....hear that evil cackle from the vicinity of the Swamplands?

That's moi.

Thinking of the at least 1/2 dozen other Miserly of Health: Disability Support Services clients of our acquaintance who are also living in blissfull sin with their opposite sex partner.

Guess they knew not to fess up...

]]> Sat, 25 Apr 2015 18:13:37 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339232#post339232 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339232#post339232 MSD is reviewing children in aged care – but not younger adults

https://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-and-our-work/work-programmes/policy-development/disabled-children-project/in-home-support-and-voluntary-out-of-home-placement-review.html

]]> Sat, 25 Apr 2015 17:58:30 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339227#post339227 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339227#post339227 Sat, 25 Apr 2015 16:05:13 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339226#post339226 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339226#post339226 Sat, 25 Apr 2015 15:56:49 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339219#post339219 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339219#post339219 Another form of imprisonment? Arising from the fact that the Ministry of Health will not fund support (except in exceptional cases determined only by itself) beyond the cost of residential care. ACC will.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/67925111/disabled-dumped-in-rest-homes

]]> Sat, 25 Apr 2015 14:13:48 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339218#post339218 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339218#post339218 Seems they haven't been collecting good data about relationships. I'd expect 'out of scope' means an answer that doesn't relate to the topic (eg: turnip).

They really should not be reporting categories with less than 3 people. Too easy to identify who they are talking about, as you did.

]]> Sat, 25 Apr 2015 13:56:04 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339174#post339174 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=339174#post339174 Sacha, you clearly have a greater grasp of the nuances of statistics....help me out here.

I'm finally having a look at the.... http://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/demographic-information-on-clients-using-ministry-dss-september13-apr15.pdf....

page 31, table 24

and , of course, I'm looking for "64 year old male in a opposite sex partnership, allocated Carer Support".

Whoops....there's Peter....the ONLY one…

]]> Fri, 24 Apr 2015 20:04:32 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338994#post338994 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338994#post338994 Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:33:39 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338981#post338981 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338981#post338981 Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:20:10 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338970#post338970 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338970#post338970 Can you believe this? Effectively preventive detention for "wilful damage" because the guy is disabled
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/67924943/autistic-auckland-man-ends-sentence-but-still-cannot-go-free

another 18 months on his sentence and then what?

]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2015 00:46:18 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338909#post338909 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338909#post338909 Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:22:22 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338904#post338904 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338904#post338904 Frances Joychild QC on the fading star of the Rule of Law

Thanks Marc, that is a very disturbing piece, information from someone in a position to know. I already knew that I can't afford "justice" should I find myself on the wrong side of the law, but I didn't…

]]> Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:04:40 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338892#post338892 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338892#post338892 http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/nights/audio/201751236/allowing-disability-to-be ]]> Tue, 21 Apr 2015 07:48:48 +1200 Marc C https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338889#post338889 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338889#post338889 Tue, 21 Apr 2015 02:10:12 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338885#post338885 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338885#post338885 Mon, 20 Apr 2015 23:49:06 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338883#post338883 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338883#post338883 Crikey. Top 10 impairment types include 3 separate ones for Autism Spectrum Disorder, making it the second most common* MoH-funded category if you add them up like most humans would.

* footnote suggests analysts have not adjusted methodology since the 2001 or 2006 Census rounds. Inexcusable.

]]> Mon, 20 Apr 2015 23:02:30 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338882#post338882 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338882#post338882 Cool. Initial response: interesting, some poor decisions, work to do to unscramble, no source tables provided like StatsNZ do ..

and really bad grasp/framing.

]]> Mon, 20 Apr 2015 22:56:15 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338879#post338879 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338879#post338879 http://www.health.govt.nz/publication/demographic-information-clients-using-ministry-healths-disability-support-services ]]> Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:51:10 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338851#post338851 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338851#post338851 Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:20:53 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338845#post338845 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338845#post338845 By the way I wrote a serious little summary of NZ disability policy here
http://briefingpapers.co.nz/2015/02/disability-policy-in-new-zealand/

I was asked to write it as a result of this Access blog, so nice to know people read it.

]]> Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:30:13 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338831#post338831 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338831#post338831 Mon, 20 Apr 2015 00:16:28 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338830#post338830 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338830#post338830 Mon, 20 Apr 2015 00:13:20 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338829#post338829 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338829#post338829 'watch out, difficult demanding parent, avoid'

Or, "stroppy old crip with the shrewish partner."

We have no doubt whatsoever they have a 'shit list'....and we proudly earned our place when we got a 24 hour trespass notice from parliament grounds back in 2009.

Which leads nicely to this....

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/oneinfive/20150419

Yippee!…

]]> Sun, 19 Apr 2015 23:17:58 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338826#post338826 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338826#post338826 Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:14:59 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338822#post338822 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338822#post338822 Sun, 19 Apr 2015 18:51:18 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338820#post338820 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338820#post338820 Socrates collects information from the 15 Ministry of Health-funded NASCs and stores it securely in a central database.

Thanks. As I thought.

]]> Sun, 19 Apr 2015 18:24:59 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338817#post338817 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338817#post338817 http://www.hague.co.nz/case_study_1_programme_management.asp

SOCRATES as a case study.

"It also supported greater recognition that disability services are not entitlements to be doled out but tailored supports for the independence of people with disabilities."

A rather proud wee piece from the company that designed the Socrates database.


"We did all of that over…

]]> Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:48:18 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338816#post338816 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338816#post338816 Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:47:52 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338815#post338815 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338815#post338815 Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:40:24 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338813#post338813 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338813#post338813 Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:35:27 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338812#post338812 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338812#post338812 Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:24:54 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338811#post338811 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338811#post338811 I remember when SOCRATES was established at huge expense several years ago. It was sold to the sector as something to provide incredibly useful information for the public, and government departments. I expected regular updates of who where why when was accessing support from the Ministry's Disability Support Services. Unfortunately,… ]]> Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:20:59 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338807#post338807 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338807#post338807 who where why when was accessing support from the Ministry's Disability Support Services. Unfortunately, it has all been top secret since.

I remember an article in the Review....from the cp society, about 2008/9...

They requested quite specific data from the MOH via Socrates...and, by heavens, got the information requested.

The…

]]> Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:15:58 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338804#post338804 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338804#post338804 Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:55:56 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338800#post338800 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338800#post338800 “The more we understand about disabled people and the support they need, the more we can do to enable them to live normal lives.

Now, where have we heard THAT before?

]]> Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:00:26 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338799#post338799 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338799#post338799 When I went looking for this just now, I couldn't find it, but perhaps it will appear eventually.

You really have to have a chuckle Angela.....you're right, its not there...well not on the surface anyway.

What does it actually say....what new information will it throw up?

"the age, ethnicity, marital…

]]> Sun, 19 Apr 2015 10:27:24 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338794#post338794 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338794#post338794 Here's a media release stating that the Ministry of Health has released data on the people using disability support services:
http://www.voxy.co.nz/health/disability-support-services-data-released/5/219058

When I went looking for this just now, I couldn't find it, but perhaps it will appear eventually.

]]> Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:13:04 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338700#post338700 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338700#post338700 This may shed some light on DPA's current approach to change:

[CEO] Rachel [Noble] says, “It is easy for us to go back and say what was done to us and what was done for us. Our future is what is done with us. We have a partnership with Government…

]]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:42:01 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338698#post338698 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338698#post338698 And their goal on the day?

DPA hope that the Committee will act on our recommendation to do a review or inquiry into this legislation, so they can hear from more disabled people and their family members on this issue.

Only in the stultifying climate of Wellington bureaucracy would 'hoping'…

]]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:13:51 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338689#post338689 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338689#post338689 Interesting that the organisations getting quoted in media over the last couple of months have been the large service providers CCS and IHC again.

Well, hey, here's a bit from DPA NZ...http://www.dpa.org.nz/meeting-with-parliaments-health-committee-about-repeal-of-the-health-and-disability-amendment-act-2013-

Seems they had the ear of the Health Select Committee on the 2nd April...DPA and their good buddies…

]]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 16:09:55 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338686#post338686 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338686#post338686 Bear with me a minute....

Lots of talk at the moment about Bridges and the bridges and the Cabinet Manual.
Dr Kim McGregor's shot accross the bows about the 2009 threat to reduce funding if she and Louise kept on talking about rape and sexual violence....sent me back to this....http://www.victoria.ac.nz/sacs/pdf-files/Fears-constraints-and-contracts-Grey-and-Sedgwick-2014.pdf…

]]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 16:01:21 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338683#post338683 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338683#post338683 Of course NZ law isn't compliant with the CRPD. There are aspects of immigration and adoption law for starters which contradict the principles of the CRPD. And of now the NZ Public Health and Disability Act Amendment Act.

But there were some politicians who did try to improve the laws…

]]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:37:06 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338678#post338678 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338678#post338678 What we were doing in Auckland at one stage, frankly. And in other times and places throughout the history Hilary has been traversing. Just not really the whole country for some years now.

Hopefully that will come right eventually, though the DPOs seem to have committed to meekness for the…

]]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:37:41 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338676#post338676 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338676#post338676 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:21:49 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338675#post338675 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338675#post338675 These pilots, with their obvious benefits, are put forward as if universal access to them is around the corner. It isn’t.

Yes, Enabling Good Lives is a classic of the genre.

]]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:20:34 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338674#post338674 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338674#post338674 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:19:29 +1200 Ezekiel Robson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338665#post338665 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338665#post338665 The passage of the 2008 Disability Act to ensure New Zealand law was compliant with CRPD, and New Zealand’s ratification of the Convention in September 2008, were two of the last actions of the Labour-led government.

Given my recent pondering of the very informative [[http://www.aut.ac.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/536572/NO-watermark-Fault-lines-Human-rights-in-New-Zealand.pdf|Fault lines: human rights in New…

]]> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:37:03 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338642#post338642 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338642#post338642 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 08:16:51 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338634#post338634 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338634#post338634 it seems to be more about “campaigns” of awareness

Where though? They seem to be frittering their limited funds on propping up small-scale local community projects that would have got funds elsewhere previously.

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:00:15 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338633#post338633 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338633#post338633 quality of life, human value, happiness, merit, achievement, virtue, contribution, or potential

brilliant

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:49:17 +1200 Marc C https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338631#post338631 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338631#post338631 “Disability policy is a mixture of progress and retreat. Negatives included the reintroduction of work-testing on beneficiaries under the Social Security (Benefit Categories and Work Focus) Amendment Act 2013 and Funded Family Care (FFC).”

Yes, indeed a retreat, this “work testing”, and the now introduced “work ability assessments”, all dressed…

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:42:29 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338629#post338629 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338629#post338629 Interesting public lecture tomorrow Thursday at Massey Wellington campus for anyone in Wellington


Seminar
School of Social Work and School of Public Health

Prof Rosemarie Garland-Thomson
Professor of English & Critical Disability Studies
Emory University, Atlanta, GA. USA

“Disability Bioethics: The Case for Human Biodiversity Conversation”

A crucial challenge for critical…

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:34:41 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338628#post338628 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338628#post338628 Thank you.
The end of sheltered workshops and new employment rights for disabled workers
My experience is only with the last years of the Auckland Sheltered Workshop and Training Trust. While it’s since been incorporated into a whole new entity I’m glad that the Mangere facility still exists, as it…

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:27:58 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338627#post338627 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338627#post338627 Robert Martin at the United Nations
First person from the world's intellectually-impaired communities to ever speak in that place. Another proud moment for New Zealand.

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:15:39 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338625#post338625 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338625#post338625 That was the plan. Of course the ideal didn't last long.

Thanks Kay. That is really interesting history.

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:11:22 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338624#post338624 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338624#post338624 Thanks, Hilary.

Significantly, the Office would have a governance group of consumers – disabled people and advocates.

Governance? Despite being called a 'Council' wasn't that just another *advisory* group with no decision-making or budget-setting authority?

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:02:52 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338607#post338607 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338607#post338607 One doesn't want to ever find themselves at the mercy of the state in NZ. So don't get chronically sick or disabled, especially if it's not covered by ACC. Don't ever have to find yourself reliant on a benefit for the rest of your life. And never take it for… ]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 17:36:36 +1200 Kay https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338603#post338603 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338603#post338603 I was the second person in NZ to testify at the Confidential Forum, and having read the final report I can assure you it's a very accurate representation of what went on in the psych institutions. Those of us who survived them are still suffering the effects decades later.

I…

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 17:14:12 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338602#post338602 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-some-aspects-of-new-zealands-disability-3/?p=338602#post338602 Discussion from blog post.

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