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				<title>Nat</title>
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						<p>Yes, it absolutely does vary by school district. I hoped my comment about school specificity made it clear that I was aware of that. We are privileged by all demographic measures. (Although we were too in Australia, so that’s no guarantee).</p><p>I just finished reading <em>The Prize</em> by Dale Russakoff:…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:39:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Thanks Nat. I am currently trying to find out if any country is doing things well for our children. Sounds like your US experience was good, although I have heard that it varies by school districts. Also that in areas with lots of charter schools the underfunded public school system…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 07:46:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Nat</title>
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						<p>I regret that I did not make the deadline for submissions to this.</p><p>Our son was diagnosed with ASD as a result of observations by our DP at a (Decile 8) primary school in West Auckland not long after he had started school. I can now compare our experience within…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 07:32:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I read an article several years ago which said there were about 100 students in a special unit in Auckland Grammar. They weren't allowed anywhere near assessments (as they couldn't risk the league tables). I guess they were in-zone students they couldn't persuade to go elsewhere. Not sure about the…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 20:05:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						When it comes to claiming funded support during exams, etc, there are heaps apparently.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:04:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Further to my point, I'm curious to know how many disabled students are at high decile schools like Auckland Grammar, if there are any at all.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 13:38:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>One in Five on Radio NZ covered many of the issues. Good contributions from Catherine, Giovanni Tiso and many parents<br /><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/oneinfive" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/oneinfive</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 09:52:36 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>This can only give high-decile schools an even bigger reason to cherry-pick and widen the education gap. FFS.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/72605207/student-achievement-to-be-used-to-fund-schools-under-new-model" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Student achievement to be used to fund schools under new model</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2015 11:36:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Berinthia Binnie</title>
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						<p><q> Well, maybe not in the _most_ appropriate place….but in the text, somewhere. </q></p><p>Yes indeedy, if you didn't laugh you would cry ; )</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:42:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I hope they realise her value and how widely respected she is.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:07:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Kirsty Johnston from the Herald has done some great journalism on this issue. Here is her latest contribution</q></p><p>I hope she's not in for the chopping block.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:15:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q> The bureaucracy eats the money while the frontline starves.</q></p><p>Hah!  And here I am taking timeout from writing an official complaint about our NASC.</p><p>We have had an uncomfortable relationship with this bureaucracy for some years.</p><p>Finally come to a head.</p><p>So its onto 'word' and yet another letter that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:57:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Berinthia Binnie</title>
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						<p><q>cut and paste’ option would be fine…</q></p><p>Too true Rosemary, and on that note I have cut ‘n’ pasted my submission from the last review and resubmitted it to the committee. Everything I wrote last time is still live so where is the harm in repeating myself……</p><p>That said, it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:25:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Done!</q></p><p>Well done!</p><p>For what its worth....reading your comments over the past few days,  your 'cut and paste' option would be fine....plus...Hilary's right....an oral submission to the SC from you would carry much weight.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 10:34:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Catherine isn't on Health select committee so has no influence there unfortunately. The IHC complaint continues its slow progress through the legal system. They are not happy about delays <a href="http://www.ihc.org.nz/campaigns/education-complaint/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.ihc.org.nz/campaigns/education-complaint/</a>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 10:04:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>In defence of my old school friend Catherine. It is a great victory for an opposition member to get such an inquiry as the government holds the majority on select committees so it is unusual such an opposition request is taken up by the committee. </q></p><p>Such a pity your old…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:58:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Kirsty Johnston from the Herald has done some great journalism on this issue. <a href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11519839" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Here is her latest contribution</a>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:01:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Steven, thanks for your comments and I do hope you send something into the committee. Date for submissions closes on Friday. What I suggest you do is that you write something very brief to the committee via the parliamentary website before that. You can then ask to make an oral…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:48:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						One other problem with “co-morbidity” (which if we unpack its evidential base, is a greater than expected probability of individuals diagnosed for one condition to meet diagnostic criteria for other conditions) is that <em>observed non-independence of co-occurrence in diagnosed individuals</em> still might not indicate any actual correlation (let alone causal…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:56:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Just pointing out that words can be loaded with negativity when associated with disability. Also that numbers and diagnoses are contestable as knowledge and understanding changes. Hopefully, an outcome of this inquiry will be some effort to get some real NZ statistics. I am going to put that in my…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:55:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						These are all estimates, probably based on overseas studies. We don't have any definitive NZ data. Some people might have more than one of these conditions &ndash; again no  idea how many. Co-morbid is the scientific term but it is generally disliked by those to whom it may apply.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:55:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Which is to say, the total number of people affected by any one of these conditions will be somewhat less than the sum of the three totals. But since these estimated totals are ballpark figures, and probably conservative underestimates, and any one of those figures would justify a report, it…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2015 10:04:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>exactly as intended.</q></p><p>Yet another case of survivorship bias dictating policy.</p><p>I dread the possibility of a special needs kid who falls through the cracks, and grows up to do an Adam Lanza. And were that to happen, those in positions of power would probably make the walls of Rome…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 22:29:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>The systemic underfunding acts as a deterrent</q></p><p>exactly as intended.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 21:44:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>co-morbid</q></p><p>= happen together</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 21:43:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>That’s three different things.</q></p><p>Three different things that are known to be co-morbid in the psych community.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 20:15:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>So many things wrong with  all of this. From my perspective as a parent,  the barriers to assessment (cost, geographical, waiting lists, special conditions) are multiple and  mean only the  most severe cases are even recognised as perhaps needing assessment, let alone being able to access it.</p><p>The systemic underfunding…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:41:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						Thank you, Catherine. Access to education is such a vital part of equality.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:51:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Berinthia Binnie</title>
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						<p>Forgive me, I am cynical about this whole process. </p><p>I have an ORRS funded child, so am familiar with the intricacies of this whole scenario.</p><p>The powers that be are fully aware of what is needed to have truly inclusive education. What is missing is the will to make it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:05:30 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>From my experience, private schools don’t necessarily have the answer either, in spite of the supposedly smaller class sizes. My folks knew I was different, but they kept misdiagnosing it throughout my school life. They've finally understood, but they’re now retired and are unable to help much.</p><p>And it’s the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:58:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Malcolm</title>
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						Good stuff Catherine. I have 2 grandkids who have those sorts of difficulties. They go to state schools and their parents had to go outside the schools and pay to get the kids assessed and treated. It shouldn't happen that way. The kids were lucky that their parents could afford…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:35:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Thanks Catherine. Autism probably affects a lot more than 40,000 people. That is a conservative figure based on old overseas data estimating a 1% prevalence rate. I am interested in the 13,000 number of people 2-14 diagnosed on the spectrum. I am not sure where that figure comes from as…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Thank you, Catherine. From the select committee link:</p><p><q>The closing date for submissions is Friday, 2 October 2015</q></p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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