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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p>Best-case scenario is that, since the sign isn't parallel with either entrance shown, the sign may have been intended to direct towards a third entrance.  <br />I suppose there wasn't one?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:54:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Logan</title>
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						Love to hear your opinion on people like me using accessible loos: I'm non-binary. In almost every place that I try to exist in public, there is no unisex toilet that I can use. I look too masculine for a women's toilet, too feminine for a men's toilet. Often, the…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:24:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chelle Hope</title>
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						<p>There do need to be more facilities for parents with children. More parents’ rooms and/or unisex facilities with room enough to assist children would be good. </p><p>I would really like to see people being more considerate, though. The vast majority of people I see using accessible bathrooms exit all apologies…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2017 17:28:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Re disability policy generally. I've just caught up with the news that the Associate Minister with responsibility for the Ministry of Health's Disability Support Services is Julie Anne Genter. So we need to make sure she is on our mailing, advocacy and other relevant lists. Wonder if she knows about…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 12:07:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>All of the toilets. All of the time. Everywhere.</q></p><p>Yes please.  Should be written into the Building Code immediately.</p><p><q>...I predict several million squillion re-runs...</q></p><p>Conjured up similar images to those generated by <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&amp;objectid=11586037" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Polly's rant.</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 11:18:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WaterDragon</title>
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						Glad you modified that post Chelle: I have seen far too many posts that assert accessible loos are for wheelchair users only, which is exclusionary of many of the rest of us who may need to use an accessible loo but don't "look" disabled. (always amazes me how many of…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:05:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew  Hooton</title>
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						I used the  disabled toilets when my daughters were very young. Couldn’t go into the women’s with them, and didn’t want to take them into the men’s. Sorry.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2017 21:14:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kim Robinson</title>
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						<p>Only if our Mobility Parking card could also be a 'key' to use the accessible toilets. </p><p>This way it'll prevent more Aaron Smith incidents.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:41:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chelle Hope</title>
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						Good, because you are one of the people I’d hoped to talk to about it. 😂 My email is: <span id="x-protectfilter-1"></span><script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/if (document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1') != null) { document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1').innerHTML=function(e){var r='';for(var i=130;i>=0;i-=2){r+=e.charAt(i);}return r;}('\u003ebaU/5\u003cvmYoocT.Flyitaompgx@4grojlwbA.chvcHt\u003eiarfcVs8\u003eS\"Ymjo5cP.0lmiDa6mRgA@Xg0orlwbu.th\u003ccTtriarKc8sd:BomtylgiIaWm9\"2=Tfce@rWhs Yav\u003cV'); document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1').removeAttribute('id'); }/*]]>*/</script> if you’d like to flick me a message and then I can go into some detail,
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2017 09:50:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Chelle, would be interested to hear more about your PhD.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:15:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I was there too (in the arena not the toilets) with the Wellington team, and if I knew what you looked like would have said hi.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:14:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Hah!   All part of the eco friendly facilities and clearly they need to cater for hand sanitation for persons of all heights!</p><p>The water economies extend to the toilet flushing...no amount of clever water minimization design can cope with the effluvia of Te Araroa trail hikers who have been holding…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:50:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Walter  Nicholls</title>
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						Might also be available through ACC or MOH &ndash; I know it is in the catalogue of accessable who are a big provider of such things.   I won't even begin to wonder what it would mean for any of you to be assessed as needing one on the public purse,…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 10:35:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Cape Reinga</q></p><p>Cape Reinga ablutions block hand sanitizer dispenser array, C.2012.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 10:26:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>There's all manner of useful stuff out there</q></p><p>Brilliant! Also, thanks for looking for that for me. I never thought the product would actually exist.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 09:55:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Not just for me but for others with varying access needs </q></p><p>Sigh....we kinda gave up recognizing the 'wheelie' symbol denoting accessibility. What the para doing the evaluation for the accreditation considered accessible is not necessarily going to work for the tetraplegic who needs at least one AB in the room…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 22:25:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>....the sucker-cup handles that glaziers use to move sheets of glass would work</q></p><p>Ask, and ye shall <a href="https://www.mobilitycentre.co.nz/category/141732" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">receive</a>....</p><p>There's all manner of useful stuff out there...an impressive range.  However, I never cease to be amazed at how ill informed some of the professionals are as to what is available...or even…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 22:06:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						I suspect it's been mentioned here, but trying to organise a public event that's accessible is one way that able-bodied people can discover just how frustrating life is for people who need those disabled toilets.  <a href="http://davehingsburger.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dave Hingsburger</a> is one blogger I follow who periodically writes about how hard it is…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:05:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p>Are there wheelchair users who carry a battery powered hammer drill to fix toilets? Or as a less destructive option, the sucker-cup handles that glaziers use to move sheets of glass would work. Probably too heavy for wheel-less disabled folk, but possible worth considering.</p><p>I say this as a habitual…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:01:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chelle Hope</title>
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						I have actually noticed that even for me some loos, like the ones at my local gym, could ALL be made different levels of accessible depending on my needs at the time. I can get my wheelchair in and out of all of them. I’ve even said as much to…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:48:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Anita Easton</title>
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						<p>Yes! Grip bars in ordinary cubicles  would make them reliably usable for me and I wouldn’t need to take up a wheelchair-able space when the only problem I have is trying to not fall over.</p><p>I expect the same would be true if lots of people with balance issues, and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:24:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chelle Hope</title>
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						Thanks very much. Yes, agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said. I feel for parents with their little ones. There need to be better facilities for everybody. I have noticed more dedicated parents' rooms alongside accessible bathrooms but only really in publicly owned buildings in bigger cities. I think we would…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:32:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>daleaway</title>
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						<p>Very well put, Chelle. <br />I'm a wheelchair user when out and about and I notice this issue all the time &ndash; as well as parents with small children using the disabled loo (and not clearing up after their messy little munchkins).</p><p>One of the reasons, I believe, is that building…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:14:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Anita Easton</title>
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						<p>Thank you, and thank you also to Chelle.</p><p>This is a real issue; accessible bathrooms are not just extra big extra private bathrooms, some of us really do need them (even if some of us only need them some of the time). It's good to see it rephrased in a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 16:56:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Woah there, this has made me really uncomfortable, which may not have been your intent.</p><p>I have a disability, but it is not a visible one. I sometimes need to use a disabled bathroom, and sometimes will be in there for a while.</q></p><p>Thanks Anita. Chelle has heard you and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 16:17:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Anita Easton</title>
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						<p>Woah there, this has made me really uncomfortable, which may not have been your intent.</p><p>I have a disability, but it is not a visible one. I sometimes need to use a disabled bathroom, and sometimes will be in there for a while.</p><p>It makes me extremely uncomfortable to hear,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:09:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chelle Hope</title>
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						<p>Yes, I was furious with her at the time and with the newspaper. It was an extremely unhelpful piece.</p><p>I understand extenuating circumstances but it was just SO uncharitable and counterproductive and yeah, she still should have used a stall. That she didn’t and got an angry reaction as a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:15:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chelle Hope</title>
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						It is indeed a thing. I’ve heard small groups of young women giggling and snapping pics from the other side of the bathroom door, even flashes going off, on quite a few occasions.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:07:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>or if you are using the bathroom, alone or with friends, as a backdrop for a photoshoot for social media – Seriously, WHY do people do this??</q></p><p>This … is a thing?</p><p><q>There are two exceptions, of course: If it is a shared “parents’ room”/accessible facility, which is not ideal…</q></p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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