Public Address | Cafe | Access: Fighting seclusion with collective activism https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379162#post379162 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379162#post379162 Never been an incident when he is out of that place

Hmmm....so, the health professionals responsible for his day to day care may not, after all,be the best people to advise on his future care?

I had an idea that might be the case.

]]> Wed, 23 May 2018 19:49:23 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379161#post379161 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379161#post379161 Wed, 23 May 2018 19:30:19 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379121#post379121 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379121#post379121 The Herald editorial follows up today and also quotes the Ombudsman.

...the process had been "excruciatingly slow" and in his view unacceptable. He also stated that he was speaking not as an advocate for Ashley but as the head of an independent monitoring body charged with ensuring the conditions of detention…

]]> Tue, 22 May 2018 11:03:00 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379116#post379116 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379116#post379116 Tue, 22 May 2018 00:08:47 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379115#post379115 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379115#post379115 ( Sincerely hoping that linked works.)

Thank you Rosemary, your link gave me a Word file download which Windows 10 opened in Wordpad. If your preference is for PDF you can choose that here.

]]> Mon, 21 May 2018 23:33:56 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379114#post379114 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379114#post379114 And hopefully the health professionals heard the Ombudsman...

( Sincerely hoping that linked works.)

]]> Mon, 21 May 2018 23:07:28 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379113#post379113 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379113#post379113 Tell you what Neil…shine a bit of light here…what the hell do you mean…’the complexity and risks….?

He is a complex case. He has seriously assaulted other people.

Most people with a psychosis aren’t complex, usually medications are effective and symptoms such as command hallucinations that can cause aggression disappears…

]]> Mon, 21 May 2018 21:37:41 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379111#post379111 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379111#post379111 something Genter has apparently now come to appreciate

And what do you base that claim on?

]]> Mon, 21 May 2018 18:01:48 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379110#post379110 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379110#post379110 Nobody is downplaying risks – hence the cost of the solution (and of the current harmful arrangements).

Penny-pinching is therefore completely the wrong attitude from the Ministry and stamping it out will require a big culture change in that team.

]]> Mon, 21 May 2018 18:00:04 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379107#post379107 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379107#post379107 I think the complexity and risks are much greater than you think – something Genter has apparently now come to appreciate.

Tell you what Neil...shine a bit of light here...what the hell do you mean...'the complexity and risks....?

Because after over a decade of being locked up like a feral,…

]]> Mon, 21 May 2018 16:49:58 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379106#post379106 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379106#post379106 Mon, 21 May 2018 15:30:19 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379105#post379105 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379105#post379105 Nothing has changed about the nature of the decision over the last year (and more).

The Ministry's contracting team has form for dicking around to screw money out of every other organisation as if their only goal is financial. They need their arses kicked promptly and firmly.

Which other industry…

]]> Mon, 21 May 2018 15:24:15 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379103#post379103 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379103#post379103 Mon, 21 May 2018 15:14:13 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379101#post379101 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=379101#post379101 And here's Kirsty again, one year on and still fucking battling.

Truly, people, I'm over it and I'm singularly unimpressed with Genter's response.

The stumbling block appears to be funding... or it could simply be that the Ministry are being twats because they are being guilt tripped into sorting this.

Whatever...Genter…

]]> Mon, 21 May 2018 14:18:10 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372920#post372920 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372920#post372920 Sat, 20 May 2017 11:30:39 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372647#post372647 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372647#post372647 Fighting exclusion with collective activism...

Tiaho Trust's Jonny Wilkinson speaks out about the lack of accessible housing and inaccessible and mana destroying disability conference venues.

He also has a little bit to say about effective protesting...

It seems to me that, at the moment, to get any media attention at all,…

]]> Thu, 04 May 2017 23:48:33 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372517#post372517 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372517#post372517 I mean senior DHB/MoH managers, not the treating team. They aren't doing a great job of communicating about the professional constraints faced. The Ministry's senior mental health advisor was a picture of caution when interviewed by RNZ.

Sometimes we wonder if the bad old CHE culture has lingered in one…

]]> Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:00:00 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372500#post372500 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372500#post372500 Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:20:15 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372498#post372498 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372498#post372498 We seem to hear that position mediated only by risk-averse managers, which does not enhance trust.

It would be difficult for anyone in the treating team to speak out because of privacy issues. I can discuss this because I have no involvement and stick to generalities. But I'm conscious that…

]]> Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:16:26 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372478#post372478 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372478#post372478 this schism of opinion with those involved in his care on a daily basis on one side

We seem to hear that position mediated only by risk-averse managers, which does not enhance trust.

]]> Fri, 28 Apr 2017 23:11:20 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372475#post372475 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372475#post372475 Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:32:13 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372472#post372472 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372472#post372472 However I realise you are talking about the narrower field of mental health which might just possibly be an exception.

Yes that's the case, possibly could have been clearer.

The two areas intersect with Ashley Peacock. I don't think we're going to agree but I do think it's worth considering…

]]> Fri, 28 Apr 2017 19:05:19 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372423#post372423 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372423#post372423 Every effort is made to keep people in the community setting where possible. That's the default position.

yes and no, I'm afraid. If you happen to be a high needs disabled person there is in fact considerable pressure on you and your family to accept residential care of one type…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:18:46 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372422#post372422 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372422#post372422 render unto Caesar...
the tip of an iceberg
...albeit a particularly curly one?
why – just be cos...

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:17:49 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372421#post372421 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372421#post372421 If it were the case that a key decision maker with oversight of Ashley’s care was able to allocate up to a million in the most appropriate ways to obtain best care for Ashley and best safety practices for staff, that could and, I think, would be done.

I think…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:49:48 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372418#post372418 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372418#post372418 If it were the case that a key decision maker with oversight...

Realizing that Peter was well outside the 'normal' with respect to MOH:DSS's narrow and inflexible parameters for managing supports we did embark upon a mission to find and engage with such a person.

Fools we were.

Fools.

All…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 12:01:50 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372416#post372416 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372416#post372416 And you don’t have to be as exceptional as Ashley to be in the too hard basket either.

But, but our wonderful Disability Support Service has a Strategic Direction that clearly states their commitment to...

Our vision is that disabled people and their families are supported to live the lives…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:53:50 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372415#post372415 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372415#post372415 Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:45:29 +1200 linger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372414#post372414 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372414#post372414 Ashley represents the tip of an icebergalbeit a particularly curly one? ]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:42:58 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372413#post372413 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372413#post372413 The issue is risk not resources.

It's much more complicated than that.

Although various funding agencies are contributing to Ashley's care to the tune of about a million, these funds can only be used in specific predetermined ways.

If it were the case that a key decision maker with oversight…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:28:19 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372412#post372412 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372412#post372412 The DHB spends a million dollars a year on Ashley Peacock’s care. The issue is risk not resources.

Is it?

I'm starting to wonder if perhaps they have dug in their wee toes over Ashley...sometimes the Ministry of Health and their minions react rather nastily to the kind of criticism…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:40:15 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372411#post372411 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372411#post372411 It’s important I think to understand the great difficulties faced by treating teams in these rare complex cases.

You make a fair and valid point Neil, and I too have reservations about holding responsible those staff immediately involved at the immediate time that the incident that ultimately leads to restraint/seclusion…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:36:13 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372410#post372410 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372410#post372410 The DHB spends a million dollars a year on Ashley Peacock's care. The issue is risk not resources.

I'm only talking about acute mental health which I'm familiar with.

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:32:50 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372409#post372409 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372409#post372409 Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:25:56 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372408#post372408 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372408#post372408 It's important I think to understand the great difficulties faced by treating teams in these rare complex cases. They are experienced professionals who do not take restricting someone's freedoms lightly.

Is this simply a pious affirmation, or do you have solid evidence that this is so? In every case where…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:19:52 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372407#post372407 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372407#post372407 who do not take restricting someone's freedoms lightly

Yet this review has found they are not taking other options than locking people up which overseas institutions seem to manage to do.

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:08:41 +1200 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372406#post372406 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372406#post372406 The next paragraph in realation to Andrew Peacock reads:

"I should acknowledge these organisations do deal with complex individuals but overall on balance between individual need and staff needs – and fear- it was always staff safety or perceived safety that seemed to take precedence."

It will not just be…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:38:11 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372405#post372405 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372405#post372405 Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:18:53 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372404#post372404 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=372404#post372404 An update from our Friend...

A scathing report has slammed New Zealand for its overuse of solitary confinement – found to be four times higher than in English prisons and in breach of international standards.

Shalev also highlighted the small but persistent number of "chronic" cases where solitary confinement and…

]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:16:16 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=371595#post371595 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=371595#post371595 Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:53:14 +1300 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=371582#post371582 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=371582#post371582 Breaking news, the authorities are going to do something- in about 6 months.......
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11823161

]]> Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:55:56 +1300 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=371576#post371576 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=371576#post371576 We are spending about a million dollars a year to keep Ashley Peacock confined
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11822937
surely this sort of money could provide a much better situation for him

]]> Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:38:58 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=370744#post370744 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=370744#post370744 life together. ]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2017 14:06:42 +1300 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=370743#post370743 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=370743#post370743 Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:45:26 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=370731#post370731 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=370731#post370731 So proud.

The treatment of intellectually disabled man Ashley Peacock's case at a Porirua mental health unit has been included in Amnesty International's annual global report on human rights abuses.

]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:58:00 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366925#post366925 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366925#post366925 separate 'cottage' on the grounds of the same locked-up facility, rather than just transfer Ashley to a community setting as they have been ordered to. Arseholes. ]]> Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:20:14 +1300 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366424#post366424 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366424#post366424 Clips from TVNZ news about the petition. DHB continues to nit pick about details rather than address the issue

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/its-just-not-good-enough-frustrated-parents-petition-dhbs-keep-autistic-son-in-isolation.html

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/health-board-denies-claims-autistic-man-living-in-isolation-after-petition-presented-parliament

]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:46:33 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366423#post366423 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366423#post366423 Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:40:05 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366407#post366407 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366407#post366407 Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:30:32 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366405#post366405 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366405#post366405 not to rock the boat or do or say anything that could upset the minister. Yet they are the governors!

Though DHB Board members are (mostly) elected by local citizens they are all contractually accountable to the Minister, who reminds them of that from time to time. Their primary role…

]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:05:46 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366397#post366397 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366397#post366397 Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:01:58 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366368#post366368 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=366368#post366368 Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:09:06 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364842#post364842 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364842#post364842 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 22:17:03 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364834#post364834 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364834#post364834 Mental Health Act and IDCC&R Act.

Here.

Hilary, can you make any observations on the demeanor (for want of a better word) of the Crown Lawyers in this case?

We found the Crown Lawyers in the High Court for Atkinson to be almost aggressive. We hear that at the Tribunal hearings…

]]> Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:50:40 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364827#post364827 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364827#post364827 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 16:56:27 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364316#post364316 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364316#post364316 What can you say?

The current Strategy, published in April (the 1st, perhaps) 2001 by the Ministry of Health is looking like the better option.

Clear Objectives, with sub categories, that had They actually had a true and honest commitment to it would have seen real and measurable improvements in…

]]> Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:50:10 +1200 walrus https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364312#post364312 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364312#post364312 Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:02:13 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364307#post364307 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364307#post364307 Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:09:53 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364290#post364290 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364290#post364290 FWIW, here's the Draft NZ Disability Strategy...

24 pages of aspirational twaddle.

They have done to the Disability Strategy what they did to the Carers Strategy a few years ago.

Oh, well. At least the PLODS have produced something to justify their salaries...

]]> Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:04:58 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364283#post364283 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364283#post364283 I weep

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/world/asia/knife-japan-stabbing-sagamihara.html?_r=0

“My aim is a world where people with multiple disabilities who have extreme difficulty living at home or being active in society can be euthanized with the consent of their guardians,”

And you know what?

As gutsmackingly awful as that is, I really do believe that there…

]]> Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:28:56 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364242#post364242 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364242#post364242 I weep

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/309446/japan-attacker-wanted-to-rid-world-of-disabled-people-reports

]]> Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:52:49 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364193#post364193 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364193#post364193 Here's hoping that they get betterer and betterer...

Perhaps the next issue will feature the latest Spencer decision and the all important Training Order...

[38] The fifth issue is whether, as the Commission seeks as intervener, the **Ministry should be directed to educate its staff as to the central significance…

]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:06:44 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364192#post364192 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364192#post364192 DPA has been active lately, particularly in the public policy area. There is some new activist leadership in Wellington and they have done a lot of submissions and organised a protest against the ableist movie Me before you. Only a couple of part time staff members.

Have on line Information…

]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:03:18 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364183#post364183 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364183#post364183 I found this wee snippet while idly seeing if DPA NZ were doing anything particularly interesting at the moment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBVfeZ6jPLg


Minister for Disability Issues Hon Nicky Wagner and Victoria Manning talk to TVNZ Breakfast about the disability strategy.

No transcript, but I'm pretty sure Nicky Wagner was gloating about how…

]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:47:05 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364179#post364179 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364179#post364179 people who are not disabled by accident in New Zealand don't have rights, in effect

Yes, not much point in rights if they are not honoured.

]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2016 11:24:12 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364176#post364176 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364176#post364176 Submissions required to ratify Optional protocol for UN CRPD. Suggestion here
http://aucklanddisabilitylaw.org.nz/?page_id=257

Thanks Hilary, this is really important and I wouldn't have known about the opportunity if you hadn't posted the link. We really need to talk about this and spread the word as widely as possible because people who…

]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:35:21 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364161#post364161 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=364161#post364161 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/kirsty-johnston/news/article.cfm?a_id=980&objectid=11680596 ]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2016 08:56:25 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363869#post363869 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363869#post363869 Submissions required to ratify Optional protocol for UN CRPD. Suggestion here
http://aucklanddisabilitylaw.org.nz/?page_id=257

]]> Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:01:26 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363804#post363804 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363804#post363804 Apparently other people didn’t find the Sunday doc as anti-disability as me.

I actually commandeered a telly last night to watch this particular program....(jesus wept there's no shortage of absolute crap on TV these days!)

I too found some of it portrayed Ashley as a dangerous nutbar (largely ignoring the…

]]> Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:30:15 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363788#post363788 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363788#post363788 Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:45:04 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363787#post363787 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363787#post363787 So there are four such cases as Kirsty as uncovered. http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11676336

Human rights lawyer Tony Ellis has High Court case starting 27 July in Wellington on behalf of two (not Ashley).

]]> Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:41:10 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363782#post363782 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363782#post363782 Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:01:54 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363727#post363727 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363727#post363727 Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:29:07 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363725#post363725 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363725#post363725 Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:03:39 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363722#post363722 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363722#post363722 you'd think that by now the Minister would've told the DHB to do something pronto, talk about dragging their feet.
Well done to all the activists who've managed to get Ashley's story a high media profile.
If this doesn't get a result, maybe it's time to get people picketing the…

]]> Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:35:18 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363716#post363716 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363716#post363716 Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:19:02 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363715#post363715 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363715#post363715 Fri, 15 Jul 2016 07:51:01 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363443#post363443 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363443#post363443 Wed, 06 Jul 2016 17:04:24 +1200 linger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363437#post363437 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363437#post363437 parasitical on the real economy [...]. Like the hippo arse-leech, it survives by inserting itself into the squishy parts of the real economy… ]]> Wed, 06 Jul 2016 16:04:38 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363431#post363431 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=363431#post363431 Wise Group has withdrawn from Social Bond negotiations which would have seen "employment consultants" placed in GP practices targeting people with mental health issues.
Social bonds are a failure, Idiot Savant at http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2016/07/social-bonds-are-failure.html

]]> Wed, 06 Jul 2016 15:13:47 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362670#post362670 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362670#post362670 It points to unaddressed deep cultural/moral assumptions about who 'deserves' to have rights and who doesn't. Otherwise, how we *become* disabled would be irrelevant. Activist Wendi Wicks has compared it with our old UK-derived notions of the 'deserving poor'.

If we do not name and unpack for enough of the…

]]> Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:56:38 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362664#post362664 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362664#post362664 I'd add to the previous post that we are not very good at demanding our 'rights'.

I know ACC funded disabled who honestly believe they have rights and entitlements and approach ACC with that attitude. They are backed up by legislation and any number of wriggly arsed lawyers who will…

]]> Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:26:08 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362663#post362663 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362663#post362663 What really, really distresses me is that this family, who are at the start of their disability journey, are going to have a harder time sourcing supports than those who have been battling the system seemingly forever.

How the hell have we let this happen?

I recall Brian Easton saying…

]]> Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:11:15 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362662#post362662 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362662#post362662 Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:48:00 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362655#post362655 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362655#post362655 Must be the season for it.... parents of boy with Down Syndrome told 'you're on your own.'

When this little shit storm broke, the resulting discussions suggested that if parents chose to continue a pregnancy knowing the baby had a disability they should not expect the state to support them…

]]> Thu, 23 Jun 2016 07:28:01 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362586#post362586 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362586#post362586 Giovanni Tiso on seeking accountability for Ashley's situation...
Thank you. I found the video link provided by eileen macatee in her comment there highly educational.

]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:41:57 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362583#post362583 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362583#post362583 http://bat-bean-beam.blogspot.co.nz/2016/06/someone-should-be-going-to-jail.html ]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:41:45 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362497#post362497 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362497#post362497 Lawyer Tony Ellis said the ombudsman’s latest declaration meant there was “plainly” a civil case to be made under the Bill of Rights Act if the family decided to take one.

The Human Rights Commission may have a part to play here. Breaches of human rights are their bread and…

]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:01:00 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362495#post362495 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362495#post362495 Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:32:11 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362494#post362494 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362494#post362494 Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:14:23 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362490#post362490 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362490#post362490 Yes, let's see if this gets the attention of the Ministry and the DHB.
Lawyer Tony Ellis said the ombudsman's latest declaration meant there was "plainly" a civil case to be made under the Bill of Rights Act if the family decided to take one.

Do your job, clowns.

]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:58:41 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362488#post362488 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362488#post362488 http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11659430 ]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:30:36 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362487#post362487 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362487#post362487 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/81136386/Jacinda-v-David-Teina-Pora-case-has-much-to-teach-us ]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:26:17 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362484#post362484 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362484#post362484 They are not listening to people who know him or know about insert diagnosis

A problem endemic in Ministry of Health disability provision. I suspect ACC does it better. Certainly there is a lot of room for improvement.

]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:59:59 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362474#post362474 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362474#post362474 http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/green-party-wants-urgent-inquiry-into-mental-health-failings-2016061908#axzz4ByZfYdPZ ]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:00:53 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362470#post362470 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362470#post362470 structural failures involved in this situation. ]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:57:29 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362468#post362468 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362468#post362468 Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:28:20 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362461#post362461 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362461#post362461 No. And that's a problem. Agencies and regulators must be supported to take more risks than they currently reckon they can.

Lifting their sights to outcomes rather than outputs was meant to help. Same timid feckers, sadly. Requires new skills and/or new people.

]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:29:41 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362460#post362460 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362460#post362460 Mr Lotu-liga said the safety of Mr Peacock and the people around him was paramount.

There's a risk here in that it would be a simple matter for Ashley to be released into an unsuitable environment, or care, resulting in badly managed meltdown. That would then be used as an…

]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2016 20:06:08 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362459#post362459 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362459#post362459 Hapless Minister being incorrectly advised by MoH

Instead of crawling under the bus, Sam should start questioning what he is told and randomly checking things out for himself. A visit to see the room and facility in which Ashley is held and to read the log showing how much time…

]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:58:34 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362454#post362454 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362454#post362454 Hapless Minister being incorrectly advised by MoH that Ashley is getting best possible care.

A report from Chief Ombudsman Peter Boshier said his living situation was cruel, inhuman, and degrading, and he should be urgently moved.

However, Associate Health Minister Sam Lotu-Iiga said the ministry had reassured him Mr Peacock…

]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:35:15 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362453#post362453 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362453#post362453 Radio NZ. Ashley today
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/306669/autistic-man's-'inhuman'-treatment

My theory is that that the authorities are scared of autism and Ashley's expression of it, which they see as extreme and rare. They see a person dangerous to himself and others – so he has to remain locked up, in some misguided idea that…

]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:23:47 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362444#post362444 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362444#post362444 Story led RNZ 8 am news.
Shows that activist networks, once established, can be effective and tenacious. I suspect we are collecting important allies along the way.

]]> Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:50:01 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362439#post362439 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362439#post362439 Kirsty Johnston secures most recent Crimes of Torture Act report including Ombudsman's comments.

The Capital & Coast District Health Board released a copy tonight, including comments from Chief Ombudsman Peter Boshier about Ashley's situation.

"I consider this client's living situation to be cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment for the purpose…

]]> Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:12:22 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362407#post362407 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362407#post362407 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/81011893/father-battles-for-intellectually-disabled-sons-welfare-after-14-years?cid=facebook.post.81011893 ]]> Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:59:52 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362396#post362396 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362396#post362396 Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:23:29 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362389#post362389 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362389#post362389 autistic son to a residential school in Christchurch. This is against the Education Act and the legal right to attend your local school, and harks back to the years of institutions. But children… ]]> Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:08:11 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362347#post362347 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362347#post362347 And Natrad....

Big cheer from the Bus in Kaitaia this am at the announcement...

]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:53:49 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362342#post362342 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362342#post362342 Kirsty Johnston finds another case of institutional abuse this time in the Waikato

There is a very good reason why Himself and moi spend as much time as possible as far away from our Waikato home.

The NASC has a default setting for residential "care" for those who's care needs…

]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:36:32 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362334#post362334 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362334#post362334 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:41:51 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362330#post362330 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362330#post362330 media coverage

Minister's media release.

Herald.

OneNews

NewShub.

]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:01:35 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362325#post362325 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362325#post362325 Yay Robert won.

Far out. And thanks once again for the heads up on Becoming A Person.

]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:06:14 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362322#post362322 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362322#post362322 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:51:25 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362321#post362321 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362321#post362321 another case of institutional abuse this time in the Waikato ]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:41:49 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362318#post362318 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362318#post362318 Paul Gibson reports from the Human Rights Commission https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/paul-gibson-supporting-disability-advocate-robert-martin-bid-un/

Robert and his People First colleagues have also been following Ashley's story from New York.

]]> Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:13:29 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362316#post362316 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362316#post362316 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:34:38 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362167#post362167 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362167#post362167 clarification was sought from his office and means and asset testing for HCSS was ruled out.

There is already a degree of means testing in place for older people regarding Home and Community Support Services. Only personal care support is provided free of charge to older adults whose income is…

]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:15:47 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362144#post362144 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362144#post362144 While we're scrutinising Sam, who rather uncharacteristically ably fielded a question from Annette King about (potential?) means and asset testing for Home and Community Support Services for Older People inthehouse on Tuesday.

Thanks Rosemary. I guess that illustrates just how much Sam realised he was on a hiding to nowhere…

]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:49:08 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362143#post362143 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362143#post362143 While we're scrutinising Sam, who rather uncharacteristically ably fielded a question from Annette King about (potential?) means and asset testing for Home and Community Support Services for Older People inthehouse on Tuesday.

Now, means and asset testing for HCSS is not a new concept, it was discussed in some depth…

]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:36:11 +1200 izogi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362135#post362135 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362135#post362135 I've Been Thinking section of Back Benches last night (8-June-2016). They don't seem to have it up on the youtube channel yet. ]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:55:54 +1200 izogi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362133#post362133 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362133#post362133 I actually felt sorry for him...

Well, I can't truthfully say I feel sorry for him.

He's not a little kid being forced to say stuff. He's not being made to represent the National Party. He always has the option to say No and deal whatever consequences his Cabinet overlords…

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:12:02 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362124#post362124 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362124#post362124 a woeful performance by Sam Lotu-Iiga

just watched. what an embarrassingly feeble man. caffeine-deprived, if I'm feeling generous.

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 20:36:59 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362122#post362122 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362122#post362122 Thu, 09 Jun 2016 20:03:19 +1200 Lucy Telfar Barnard https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362113#post362113 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362113#post362113 Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:27:51 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362112#post362112 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362112#post362112 Poor Sam Lotu-liga doesn't appear to be entirely in control of his own body. A bit like Doctor Strangelove's errant arm, Sam's bum seems to desperately seek to plant itself back onto the relative safety of his seat from the moment he stands up.
https://youtu.be/0TR5N1doYNM

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:27:30 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362107#post362107 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362107#post362107 Kevin Hague gets it, in this blog post. He would be an excellent Minister of Health.

I read that post earlier. It's really, really good.

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 15:47:43 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362106#post362106 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362106#post362106 Kevin Hague gets it, in this blog post. He would be an excellent Minister of Health.
https://blog.greens.org.nz/2016/06/09/ashley-peacocks-treatment-shows-a-mental-health-system-in-crisis/

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 15:32:11 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362105#post362105 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362105#post362105 Paul Gibson, Disability Rights Commissioner has his say on this injustice

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11653081

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 15:19:54 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362101#post362101 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362101#post362101 The official reason is probably something about ‘privacy’ or ‘safety’.

Back in the early, early nineties when elderly with dementia were being channeled into the private facilities, a similar line was trotted out to family wishing to visit. Much easier to pop down and see Mum after work if she's…

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 13:40:04 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362098#post362098 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362098#post362098 Sometimes methinks he’s used as a kind of sacrificial lamb.

He is. Kevin Hague referred to him (I paraphrase) as Minister for Getting Thrown Under Buses.

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 13:01:36 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362095#post362095 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362095#post362095 Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:43:06 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362083#post362083 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362083#post362083 Attitude TV recently screened a documentary about an adult man and his family's fight to find him suitable housing. He now lives in a Spectrum Care (a local provider of housing and services) house in Auckland.

Many thanks for that Hilary. Some remarkably positive moments there, though Steven's parents expressing…

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 09:42:03 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362081#post362081 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362081#post362081 But, oh my, what a woeful performance by Sam Lotu-Iiga.

Not the first time poor old Sam has found himself on a hot griddle.

Sometimes methinks he's used as a kind of sacrificial lamb.

(you'll remember he was in charge of Corrections?)

It was painful to watch....I actually felt sorry…

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 09:28:12 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362080#post362080 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362080#post362080 I know this is not encouraging, but my observation is, in general society has become more heartless and selfish, weighing up every aspect of their individual’s lives, what benefits themselves, before anyone else.

Marc, it may well be that I tend to speak more with others on the margins...other Bus…

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 09:24:34 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362079#post362079 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362079#post362079 This is an great example of how Parliamentary questions work. Green MP Kevin Hague, who knows his stuff

Kevin Hague would know his stuff anyway, it's the kind of politician he is, but I'm sure the fact that he has an adult Asperger son himself makes the issue more acute…

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 09:17:07 +1200 Marc C https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362078#post362078 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362078#post362078 Thu, 09 Jun 2016 09:05:34 +1200 izogi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362077#post362077 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362077#post362077 Kirsty Johnston eventually got the go ahead from the Herald to work on the story, and she came to Wellington and sorted through the papers and complexity. She met the gentle man who liked the outdoors and horses and made delicate trout fishing flies. But, like his parents, she was… ]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 08:58:11 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362076#post362076 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362076#post362076 One of the problems in Ashley’s case is finding and funding an appropriate physical house

I'm somewhat surprised the suggestion has not been made that Ashley's parents move out of their house so Ashley and his support team can move in.

Or maybe that has already been suggested?

If so....the…

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 08:46:47 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362075#post362075 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362075#post362075 http://publicaddress.net/access/disability-as-a-wicked-policy-problem/| Iwrote an earlier post about… ]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 08:00:12 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362070#post362070 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362070#post362070 And we thought that mental institutions were abolished years ago. They were basically prisons but for the mentally ill.

As it's turned out that "we" were wrong, why would we have allowed ourselves to be misled? Two possible reasons – either we were buying into the notion that "progress" had…

]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 06:28:59 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362066#post362066 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362066#post362066 Then in 2013 there was a picture of Ashley on the front page of the Dominion Post. Ashley was still locked up in seclusion with only a short daily outing into a fenced area. How come he was still there? I asked around and almost every disability organisation and many… ]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 00:12:30 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362064#post362064 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362064#post362064 I'm luckier than Ashley in that I'm higher-functioning, living independently and in a job.

Fortune is all it is, eh. Should be more, but how do we make it so for us and others?

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 22:27:26 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362061#post362061 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362061#post362061 Thanks for that story. Many of us have asked for a Ministry of Disability over the years. Instead we are stuck with a complex inter-agency structure.

By the way I hear it is very hard to get into Hohepa these days. I know several parents with adult children in that…

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 21:19:03 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362060#post362060 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362060#post362060 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 21:13:03 +1200 Stephen Keys https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362059#post362059 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362059#post362059 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 21:07:06 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362054#post362054 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362054#post362054 And we thought that mental institutions were abolished years ago. They were basically prisons but for the mentally ill.

I'm luckier than Ashley in that I'm higher-functioning, living independently and in a job. But all the same I've struggled to earn more than the minimum wage, and for much of…

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 19:41:55 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362033#post362033 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362033#post362033 Fast moving story this

Paul Gibson, Disability Rights Commissioner and sometime Access blogger, has called in a UN seclusion expert

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/80855027/international-expert-to-investigate-seclusion-in-new-zealand

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 15:37:00 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362028#post362028 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362028#post362028 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 14:23:50 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362026#post362026 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362026#post362026 Kirsty has been trying to find out about others. It was in her article today. Hard to find http://www.nzherald.co.nz/kirsty-johnston/news/article.cfm?a_id=980&objectid=11652421

Gisborne Herald has a story now
http://gisborneherald.co.nz/localnews/2338840-135/gisborne-couple-fight-for-son

By the way Ashley is unusual among high needs autistic people in that he is very articulate. Most are non verbal or barely verbal.…

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 14:01:03 +1200 James Littlewood* https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362024#post362024 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362024#post362024 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:42:30 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362022#post362022 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362022#post362022 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:38:30 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362019#post362019 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362019#post362019 Are there other countries/systems that deal with cases of this kind in a better way and, if so, can we hear about them?

Here.

They had been institutionalised their whole life. I read words like ‘challenging behaviour’ and ‘severely autistic’ and ‘violent’ before I even met them (I use they/them…

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:19:58 +1200 Peter Davis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362017#post362017 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362017#post362017 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:06:39 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362016#post362016 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362016#post362016 ... astute collective activism.

What does this look like, Hilary?


(Well done, Kirsty, BTW, again.)

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:50:04 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362015#post362015 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362015#post362015 Psychiatrists alarmed by autism meltdowns assume he is dangerous.

It’s notable how differently such behaviour is read by someone who actually understands meltdowns and what different conclusions that understanding produces.

I’ve noted before that with our younger child we had to fend off an awful GSE case worker who pushed…

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:49:40 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362014#post362014 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-fighting-seclusion-with-collective/?p=362014#post362014 Discussion from blog post.

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