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				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=372337#post372337</link>
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						Boy with Down Syndrome and violent behaviour kept in Chch mental health unit due to lack of appropriate lower-restriction facilities. Children's Commissioner <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91777142/disabled-boy-held-in-mental-health-unit-a-human-rights-breach-childrens-commissioner-says" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">is unamused</a> and seeing similar cases.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:21:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=372026#post372026</link>
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						<p>The link to the 60 minutes documentary of the drug experimentation on institutionalised girls no longer works, and I cannot locate it. But here is a newspaper account of the documentary. <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/2819957/State-drug-test-victim-claim" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/2819957/State-drug-test-victim-claim</a></p><p>This aspect alone requires an inquiry and some accountability. There are also allegations of drug testing and experimentation…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:43:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>This was one of the first posts I ever wrote for Access – 3 years ago. I am pleased to see the call for a full inquiry and apology is gaining traction again – most recently by a commitment by Jacinda Ardern for an inquiry when the Government changes.</p><p>Since…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:39:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=355606#post355606</link>
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						Thanks Joe &ndash; finalising this project will be significant for a lot of people
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2016 13:49:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=355582#post355582</link>
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						<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/76590650/memorial-unveiling-set-at-tokanui-cemetery-to-honour-former-psychiatric-hospital-patients" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tokanui memorial.</a>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2016 11:27:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312090#post312090</link>
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						<p><q>the disability sector generally</q></p><p>I've tried to shed some basic light on <a href="http://publicaddress.net/access/disability-stakeholders/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">what we mean</a> when we say that.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 20:57:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312089#post312089</link>
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						I think some of these comments are unfair. There are some very good people in DPA, DPOs and the disability sector generally. They do their best with limited people and financial resources. These organisations are their members.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 20:10:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BDB Inc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312066#post312066</link>
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						"Robotic tools of tyranny"
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 19:04:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BDB Inc</title>
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						<p>Thank you Margaret .<br />The HDC could've acted as it was about CCDHB  provision of services( all HDC  patient code of rights )  .  Its submitted  in the district court under  human rights violations, crimes act, ( IPRC  act ACC) and UN convention   its with the govt, minstry of justice…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 18:17:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Margaret Moana McGregor</title>
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						<p><q>The totalitarian patriarch in power (acted out by Paula Bennett) will aggressively attack and lie without blinking. It looks like it becomes second nature ( her conditioning) to act in an unreceptive and hostile way.</q></p><p>Yes, and she's only one prominent example. You'll get "Black is white" statements from MOH,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 15:31:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Margaret Moana McGregor</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312054#post312054</link>
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						<p><q>Deficient and delinquent politicians, we has them.</q></p><p>we most certainly do, and inexorably we return to politics.  BDB Inc, like many others, has had a torturous experience at the hands of the medical establishment, and his/her complaint has not been heard and addressed. It isn't much to ask.</p><p>If in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 15:22:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312041#post312041</link>
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						Deficient and delinquent politicians, we has them.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 09:44:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BDB Inc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312038#post312038</link>
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						<p>Yes   I know you are not defending the HDC in this case( as I told you it was service provision and fit within  the bounds  of HDC Code of patient rights).<br />I stress this as I feel the top down philosophies of  said politicians have contaminated many crown &amp; state  agents…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 09:25:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I'm not defending anyone, just pointing out the bounds set by politicians that the agency you're talking about has to fit within. It's certainly not a good thing.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 08:15:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BDB Inc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312032#post312032</link>
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						<p>I understand the HDC Code and what they can act on. I have not described the services provided  its the "steven King horror movie"  (services included being left  unwashed &amp;  immobile in a hospital bed for two months at home) <br />Interesting defense of the HDC our experience  of their service differs.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 07:45:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>a UN tribunal </q></p><p>I'm sure she's quaking in her boots.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 07:05:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Here's the sort of official response that's sadly all too common when someone challenges the system.</p><p>The target of Paula Bennett's dismissiveness reflects:</p><p>    I should have known this would end in a personal attack by her on my state of mind and intentions.</q></p><p>If we don't want Paula Bennett being…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 02:44:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						You are describing "non-provision" of services above. HDC can not act on those. They can act on quality of care that was actually provided.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 19:33:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BDB Inc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312022#post312022</link>
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						The provision  of service complaint were  of criminal negligence and the CCDHB had the Medical protection society (MPS dr's  liability insurer) managing the service provision complaints.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 19:31:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BDB Inc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312020#post312020</link>
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						<p>Whoops posted same post  three times( if you would like to remove two of them)<br /> Yes the HDC  could and can act on shoddy provision of services as that was part of the  HDC code complaints  but  did they not . The complaints about the CCDHB provision of service   are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 19:28:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>In theory disabled people are not allowed to be refused the minimum level of care/services at the public hospital</q></p><p>HDC's governing law explicitly excludes denial of service from the things they are allowed to pursue. This has been suggested by HDC and others for change every time their Act is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 18:41:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BDB Inc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=312012#post312012</link>
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						<p>I will try in brief<br />In theory disabled people are not allowed to be refused the minimum level of care/services   at the public hospital,   a  disabled patient  in critical condition ICU cannot be referred  by the CCDHB to   ACC "active rehab"/case management in the hospital environment,    non purchase and provision…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 18:35:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=311996#post311996</link>
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						<p><q>Here's the sort of official response that's sadly all too common when someone challenges the system.</q></p><p>yes, challenging it is dangerous and I know I'm vulnerable. There are too many examples from the Problem Gambling Foundation down.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 15:45:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=311991#post311991</link>
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						That's really sad. Sarah Wilson is so brave, and I'm a great fan of her writing. However, Ministerial visits can actually be quite false. Everyone rushes around to present the image required by the media and the official party. Anyone slightly critical or dangerous is kept well out of the…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 15:13:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Here's the sort of official response that's sadly all too common when someone <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/10001705/Bennett-No-changes-at-Work-and-Income" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">challenges the system</a>.</p><p>The target of Paula Bennett's dismissiveness <a href="https://twitter.com/writehandedgirl/statuses/462049883931680768" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">reflects</a>:</p><p><q>I should have known this would end in a personal attack by her on my state of mind and intentions.</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 14:29:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=311969#post311969</link>
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						The trouble with reports like this, policies etc, is that they assume a genuineness, an honesty, a will to do the right thing, take the appropriate action and so on. The trouble is that although there are many good people working for the various ministries and agencies, they usually have…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 13:02:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/access-defective-deficient-deviant-and-delinquent/?p=311937#post311937</link>
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						<p><a href="http://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/putting-people-first-review-of-disability-support-services-dec13.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/putting-people-first-review-of-disability-support-services-dec13.pdf</a></p><p>The late Bev Grammer had significant input into this report, and I heard from the Ministry of Health today that they have a new advisory group to implement all the recommendations.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 21:05:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>The Ministry of Health's recent Russell report Putting people first</q></p><p>Link?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 20:56:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						It could be the wording of the act possibly as the HDC Act only applies to patients, and it could be that disabled people in some circumstances, such as in community care,  are not considered to be patients. But the Health and Disability Commissioner has made several recent reports on…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 20:52:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Emailed you.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 20:31:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Sacha;  did you get my message offering to send copies of a couple of interesting articles from Australian journals?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 19:47:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>What happened to HDC patient rights, I was told by the HDC in a colorful way that they do not apply if you are disabled,</q></p><p>Can you explain more? I know law prevents HDC examining denial of service, but otherwise should be effective across disability services too, in theory.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 19:42:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BDB Inc</title>
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						When abuse  happens and is reported to the  agency and then to the govt, the actions   are not  of acknowledgment,  the   agents wrongdoing is  sanctioned and supported  by attempted coverups and excuses.     I am  not saying the   individual abusers  heads should roll. I am asking  that  they are taught right…
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						It is International Blogging Against Disableism Day today. Here is Robyn Hunt's contribution to disability rights and the cause <a href="http://www.lowvisionary.com/?p=623" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.lowvisionary.com/?p=623</a>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 13:17:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						The best and the worst is drawn out in those who care or are responsible for our most vulnerable. And Tokenui is still happening, just in other facilities, and less obviously. We can't tolerate these situations,  if we know or suspect we really must speak out or we're condoning it.
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Just come across this parent perspective of Tokanui <a href="http://barbznz.wordpress.com/2014/04/29/nightmare-of-tokanui/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://barbznz.wordpress.com/2014/04/29/nightmare-of-tokanui/</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:20:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Absolutely correct Angela.  Nathan's death does not warrant a criminal charge because he had a disability.  Had he been an 'able' child in day care for instance...the brownstuff would have hit the whirly thing for sure.</p><p>Our family new this young man.  No way should he have EVER been left…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 16:03:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p>Not a direct response folks, sorry. But I just have to vent my frustration, anger and concern at the news that no-one at the respite facility which left a 15 year old to drown in the bath is to be charged for the negligence which caused his death. <br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9981142/Anger-over-lack-of-charges/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9981142/Anger-over-lack-of-charges/</a><br />I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 00:29:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						A friend of mine lost her mother at a young age. She told me her father was encouraged, not sure by whom, to put the kids into care rather than raise them on his own. Luckily for her that didn't happen.
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q> the students look on with bewilderment</q></p><p>People are great like that, aren't they? So great at seeing the absurdities of distant phenomena, so bad at seeing the exact same absurdities playing out in their everyday life.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:27:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>Yes, the Mazengarb Report is quite extraordinary.  I refer to it when I teach about moral panics and the students look on with bewilderment, even though I stress that panics about ‘dangerous youth’ persist.</p><p>Josephine and I recently had remarkable insights into how local communities can support —and even treasure–vulnerable…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:12:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>My linguist brother talks about how vocabulary is an important part of thinking.</q></p><p>words shape worlds</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:50:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>he refused to attend school. He was interested in marine biology to the exclusion of all else (and was probably bored by what his peers were doing and was being bullied) and was basically teaching himself. They finally discovered at the home that he had a massive IQ. These days…</q>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:42:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Right now I’m seeking second opinions from health professionals as to whether I’m officially on the autism spectrum.</q></p><p>Having met you quite a few times now, my unofficial finding is that you are :-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:41:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>That explains why I was never allowed to eat apples or tomatoes.</p><p>Renee &ndash; Good for them. Brave too. Were your parents early members of the NZ Autistic Society (as it was then)? I have heard from others that it was very hard to fundraise or gain acceptability for autism…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Right now I'm seeking second opinions from health professionals as to whether I'm officially on the autism spectrum. If it turns out I am, then years of 'tiger mothering' will be proven worse than useless. In Japan, the hikikomori phenomenon is a direct result of such a bigger-hammer approach towards…
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				<title>sandra</title>
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						It wasn't only learning impaired children that were put into institutions &ndash; I recently met a man who, during the course of an interview about gardening, revealed he had been put into a welfare home at age 14 because he refused to attend school. He was interested in marine biology…
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				<title>Sean_us Handley</title>
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						<p>Our daughter had eczema, probably my defective genes. We beat it now with avoidance of some acidic fruits like braeburn apples, all foods with MSG, the occasional dose of cider vinegar and plenty of sleep &ndash; stress makes it worse. <br />I also had an aunty who was subjected to ECT…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Robert said in 2009, and I use this quote quite often <br /><q>Though it’s great that New Zealand closed its last institution (Kimberley Centre), being institutionalised is not just about the buildings &ndash; the bricks and mortar &ndash; it’s also about values, beliefs, actions and activities. It’s about the way things…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:00:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>WaterDragon</title>
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						Nice post Hilary about some of our silenced lives. I never cease to be amazed/bemused at the huge variety of ways that disabled lives have been, and continue to be, made invisible within a society we inhabit. The institutions such as you describe have had a long shadow and looming…
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						A complete stranger waiting ahead of me  in a Post Office queue, suddenly swung around with cell phone in hand. She trembled as she told me that she had just received a text from her daughter who had just given birth to a Downs Syndrome  girl. I was able to…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 12:59:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Troublingly, even though the institutional model is gone, I’m not sure if the mindset is.</q></p><p>It affects the expectations of some senior disabled leaders as well.</p>
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				<title>Renee Jones</title>
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						My brother was diagosed with autism in the early 1970s. It was recommended to my mother that he be put into "care". She declined and she and my father did an amazing job of bringing him up to be able to deal with the world pretty damn well.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Thank you, Hilary. I’ve dwelt on this over the years. It’s quite likely that in another era, we would have been urged to give up one or both of boys in this way.</p><p>Troublingly, even though the institutional model is gone, I’m not sure if the mindset is. We were…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Thanks, Hilary.</p><p><q>He spoke at the United Nations during the drafting of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities as head of the NGO, Inclusion International.</q></p><p>Wasn't Robert also the first ever person with impaired learning or thinking to speak before the United Nations? Amazing man.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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