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Up Front: The Missionary Position

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  • Sacha,

    How 'bout twelve Bloody Marys?

    At ten in the morning? I want the Fridays you're having..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Zippy Gonzales,

    From my experience in situations where I could die, my thoughts in these situations is usually some variant on "Well, this is going to hurt."

    Strange. I get a worrying sensation about the unaffordability of insurance premiums, combined with a stupidity of death comparison to the guy who died by a landslide while screwing a chicken.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 186 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    How very Darwin Awards.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    I find it interesting that so many families are mentioned in the Abrahamic religions. That there's alot of intergenerational and interfamily stuff. At least in contrast with eastern religions which are far less biological and more of the metaphysical bent. rice paper and wine. singing in unison, and getting God damned cramp and sore knees.

    as an aside, there's something bizarrely poignant about the English word TAO being slang for 'condom' in Chinese, poorly appropriated loanword of the term DAO meaning 'the way'

    I don't see so much distinction between spirituality and superstitions as much as between spirituality and religion.
    Spirituality being truly personal as opposed to that more collective sense that is inspired by things like organized worship and shared belief systems.

    Spirutaulity seems to be a sense of potential. Rich Lock, you mention the ecstasy of riding. the quest for nirvana. Sacha you mention the quest for beauty in abstraction, while Morgan Nichol you prefer a more contrapuntal beauty, and andin you describe pleasure and appreciation. Steven you illustrated the conception of mortality and go into incisive detail

    "but I think its understandable way some people look for more prescriptive methods of coping with life".

    I think at coalface, that best sums up spirituality for me
    Not just a sense of appreciation and of beingness but also a sense of interaction, with your life. purportedly divining the possibility that we may be influencing elements beyond our empiricall potential or limitations. via subconscious manipulation of the metaphor that gives whatever this is we sense around and between us, meaning.

    some of us follow stratagems essentially guided by what could be classified as coincidence, miracles and epiphanies. Brief moments when our senses are joggled onto the quest for further interaction with the beingness.The sense that our thoughts inside somehow influence the universe at a subatomic level and viceversa. That vital emotions, senses and phenomena like pain, laughter, sorrow, tears, anger, joy, jealousy, ecstacy and peace, could mould and turn the clay of our being and even experiences in untenable ways.

    and it would seem from all accounts that focus and discipline are the keys to unlockng this sense.

    a large portion of religious doctrine contains a common thread regarding the perception of immortality, the continuous tense of existence.....and how to attain it.

    for the more pragmatic it's the knowledge that by focusing on ill gotten annoyances, such as stress, or a backache, a mere worry or greater, we may alleviate them. despite the intrusive drudgery of medical science .

    It's either an absorbing fantasy, a glitch, or the mildest insight into a magnificent future.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Spirutaulity...

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    My near death experiences have typically crushed all vocalizations out of my mind with the simple immediacy of doing my utmost to survive. At those times, wasting one single neuron in my brain on attempting to form into verbal thoughts what's happening, or how I feel about it, just isn't an option my subconscious will allow. It's very hard to describe what is going on in my mind other than "100% focus on living". It's a pity that I can't tap this experience more often - I think it's part of the attraction of Xtreme sports.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Thats a perfect example Ben, it seems that this is the age of discovery or rediscovery of our primal mechanisms. Having no aptitude whatsoever for that stuff, I'm often astounded by the limits of human endeavor as exhibited in footage of the Xtreme..

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    The miracle of the human condition: we spend a hundred years perfecting aircraft that make it safer to fly to Los Angeles than to walk across your own street - and then, for fun, we start jumping out of them with bits of cord and canvas.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1609 posts Report Reply

  • Brent Jackson,

    I've just read an interesting article in New Scientist magazine (here), which discusses a theory that, because humans are very good at relating causes to effects, they tend to come up with fallacious explanations when they do not what the real cause is. This pre-supposes us to belief in supernatural causes.

    (I love the example of a question put to kids of "Why do rivers exist ?", answer "So that boats have somewhere to float").

    So, as Bart stated earlier, by the time people become adults they have a reasonably fixed world view. If it contains fate, luck, que sera, gods, or whatever, then those things are likely to stay part of their world view.

    (Well, I found the article illuminating, anyway ...)

    Cheers,
    Brent.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 615 posts Report Reply

  • liam,

    @BenWilson

    Posted at 4:19PM on 10 Mar 09. Permalink.

    Is N/A somehow different from "None"?

    It seems to be to me. "None" in the context of the way the questions generally are seems to say 'no organized religion', but leaves the possibility of other spiritual beliefs. N/A says that the question has no applicability to me.

    NC, USA • Since Oct 2008 • 11 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Really liked the article, thanks Brent!

    liam - interesting interpretation: for statisitcal purposes. I understand "none" goes into the not-religious/ atheistic basket, and "n/a" into the 'chooses not to answer" file...statisticians, please?

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    sounded a lot like "a theory that, because humans are very good at relating causes to effects, they tend to come up with fallacious explanations when they do not what the real cause is. This pre-supposes us to believe in simplistic pseudo scientific explanations.</quote>

    Although I liked Atran's and Richard Dawkins' perspectives.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

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