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But, now it is probably time to go and focus on something that's not frivolous and fun.
That was Megan, for the record.
But I too am absolutely horrified by that story. A mother of three, doing her best to reach out and get help... Oh my god. Even getting yourself to a counsellor is a huge, huge, huge deal, let alone filing the paperwork with your name on it. Have they no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have they no sense of decency?
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That was Megan, for the record.
Whoops. My bad.
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Hmm, here I'd beg to differ. It doesn't have to be constructive for all to be constructive for some, surely? Or are we using different definitions of constructive?
So, uh, it's not the talking, it's how we're talking? If we were less afraid of hurting feelings, would we maybe communicate better?
I'm interested in how discussions -- and the people having them -- fluctuate between "warm" and "cool" depending on how close (or how far) the discussions are from specific experiences and hard-won wisdom.
Having typed all this I'm not even sure it's helpful. But I dunno, it feels like a useful extra nuance when reading the definitional and positional debates of the moment.
Without reading The hand Mirror (never have), I guess feathers were ruffled or tits tangled, but your words Jolisa are erudite for my mere self. Keep up the good word :)
@ Meganit didn't really occur to me to be offended, until Emma pointed out, by email, what was going on. I was trying to explain why I didn't think it was exploitative, why it was just a bit of fun, why I applauded the "this is my body and I will clothe it how I like". I was trying to discuss the content.
And good on you,as you were, don't let them bring you down for having an opinion. Freedom of your speech is just as important as anyone elses.
xxx to you all. Now back to look at the drugs thread. chao. -
Have they no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have they no sense of decency?
The minister has announced a review, but the fate of reviews lately seems to be out-of-hand dismissal. Sadly, the most emotionally ravaging media treatment possible of such stories is likely to be a more effective means of getting attention.
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the other post on The Hand Mirror ACC's new approach to sensitive claims not working qualifies. There was a discussion on bFM's The Wire yesterday which I hope will be posted soon. 90 percent of ACC claims by victims of Sexual Violence seeking help are rejected. The criteria for acceptance are so ridiculous I find it hard to think humans were involved, let alone intelligent ones.
In spite of what the Gordon Waughs of this world would have us believe.
On a lighter note, MMORPGs are doing their bit for the Boobquake.
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I used to ask my writing students to do an exercise
Jolisa that sounds like a great idea for creative writing and just the kind of thing that wouldn't work in a clash discussion, like most discussions of controversial topics end up being.
I've long ago internalized a habit from a de Bono book about thinking about a topic, which could be summarized as "Note the For points. Note the Against points. Note anything else that's interesting. Then make a decision". It's great for thinking for oneself, but as a way of discussing with people it falls flat badly. Most likely you get picked up on one point people disagree with, and maneuvered into being their enemy. Or coopted as an ally by the other side. The idea that you can raise a point (and give it a fair shot) simply for the purposes of discussion and balance is usually seen as disingenuous, or weak.
I'm not sure if people appreciate this, but it's exactly how I try to write on PAS. Curiously, rather than being seen as a mild, centrist position (which is what I consider most of my positions to be these days), it seems to get me into arguments even more. It almost like it's the most alien mindset of all.
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since I can't shake the feeling, or the hope, that we are all in the hot-tub together, as it were.
Jolisa, you just can't give me (or Emma, I suspect), an opportunity like that and not expect me to take it.
As long as we don't end up being transported back to 1986. I had terrible hair then.
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As long as we don't end up being transported back to 1986. I had terrible hair then.
Which was always my problem with hot-tubs, too, come to think of it. A dollar's worth of gel to get one's hair *just so*, and then all that damn humidity wrecking the effect.
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I had terrible hair then.
I had a mullet. A curly, frizzy mullet. Can you beat that?
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At long last, have they no sense of decency?
This is thoroughly predictable as experts said at the time - including a fair bit of comment here. It is not fresh news of moral failure.
Like many of the other spending cuts rammed through under urgency, this reflects judgements about which groups of people are worthy of state assistance. It's part of a pattern of short-sighted penny-pinching, and in this case part of readying ACC for privatisation. Note that the review panel has no members from the coalface.
Decency is a good word. Expect little of it from these shameless politicians - unless renewed public pressure now brings another craven backdown. That'll be too late for many, but I suppose it's a silver lining of having cowardly immoral douchebags in charge.
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As long as we don't end up being transported back to 1986. I had terrible hair then.
Me too. But oh how I miss having it.
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Like many of the other spending cuts rammed through under urgency, this reflects judgements about which groups of people are worthy of state assistance.
Exactly why not allowing due process with public submissions, churning out new policy for spending cuts (and as seen here, to peoples lives).The drastic drop in case files, ( due to rejection or still in the queue, the one that was going to be more efficient) that Minister Smith can't grasp, (always looking at the bottom dollar) has also highlighted poor wording of the Act. Providers are receding, having different interpretations of the Act or feeling uncomfortable addressing some of the requirements in diagnosing each case. Labour did warn of this as soon as Nick Smith chose to decrease funding. His concern on the day (ever so concerned) seems to have gone along the road to nowhere, like so many of this Governments warped ideas, when consequent scenarios are highlighted.
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I had a mullet. A curly, frizzy mullet. Can you beat that?
No, my fringe perm bows before your mullet. Though mostly it's the insecurity and desperate conformism I'd like to skip revisiting.
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I had a mullet. A curly, frizzy mullet. Can you beat that?
No, my fringe perm bows before your mullet.
I had... ta-dah! A permed mullet. (Although, actually, perhaps the permed part of it was 1987 or 1988. Anyway, I think the dubious title of Nadir of Hairstyles belongs to me.)
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You guys were probably cool back then. I've had the same hairstyle since 1980, but that's not always a good thing.
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I had... ta-dah! A permed mullet. (Although, actually, perhaps the permed part of it was 1987 or 1988. Anyway, I think the dubious title of Nadir of Hairstyles belongs to me.)
Wow....Um, pics or it didn't etc.
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Like Ben my haircut hasn't change since Rick Astley.
Which was always my problem with hot-tubs, too, come to think of it.
This was your problem?
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Like Ben, and I still don't need a hairdresser, and still cant happily frollick in the hot tub, I'd drown. :)
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Like Ben my haircut hasn't changed since Rick Astley.
Busted. You're John Campbell.
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Wow....Um, pics or it didn't etc.
I may have class photos at my parent's house in Wellington as evidence.
However I'm not bringing them out as Danielle might have the same photos with me in them.
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Busted. You're John Campbell.
Well, you know that I'm not, but I welcome the comparison, even if it stops at the hair. Oh, maybe the love of music?
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Heh, I forgot to link to this, from Jen's blog: the boobquake results are in. (Could be slow loading: Jen's site seems to have been somewhat impacted by the publicity.)
And y'know, I'm gonna let y'all draw your own conclusions about Jen's intelligence and self-awareness. (Also I'm quite tempted to buy an "I heart cephalopods" tshirt.)
Also, I'm impressed by Jen's attitude to Westboro Baptist Church's latest dick move:
Constance, you should see the WBC's attention as a badge of honor. By standing up for your rights and helping gay students across the country, you became so awesome that WBC wants to waste their time on you
I might have a bit of a blog-girl-crush.
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I might have a bit of a blog-girl-crush.
You and the world. That's such a great blog post. It has graphage!
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Westboro Baptist Church
I recently saw Louis Theroux's documentary about his visit with them. I mean, I knew they were crazy, but holy CRAP: totally batshitinsane. Even when they tried to explain their reasoning for the protests in some kind of linear way, it was completely incomprehensible.
I may have class photos at my parent's house in Wellington as evidence. However I'm not bringing them out as Danielle might have the same photos with me in them.
Aha: my class photos are also at my mother's house. Unfortunately for you, I live *actually next door* to my mother, so if we're going to do the Embarrassing Class Photo-Off, I am Quick-Draw McGraw and you're Shit Out of Luck McGee. ;)
ETA: of course, in either scenario we're both losers. It's mutually assured destruction. Heh.
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Unfortunately for you, I live *actually next door* to my mother, so if we're going to do the Embarrassing Class Photo-Off, I am Quick-Draw McGraw and you're Shit Out of Luck McGee. ;)
Wait, you live next door to your mother and that's unfortunate for *me*?
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