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Up Front: Absence of Malice

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  • Kyle Matthews,

    World Famous in New Zealand I am.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Amy Gale,

    I've had a lingering belief in the power of silly ditties in memory ever since a 1989 Economic Studies test in which my friend and I conferred afterwards to check we'd got the same on the multi choice section.

    Piano teacher, c.1982: Five Cats Got Drowned At Evans Bay

    PE (!) teacher, 1985 (years before actually needed): Harry HE LIkes BEer By Cupfuls Not Over Flowing

    Not to mention speech teacher, c.1980: Jabberwocky (the ultimate silly ditty).

    Seared. In. But can I remember where I put my car keys?

    tha Ith • Since May 2007 • 471 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    PE (!) teacher, 1985 (years before actually needed): Harry HE LIkes BEer By Cupfuls Not Over Flowing

    Having sat through three years of high school science, I find myself only ever able to remember the first dozen or so elements of the periodic table. I suspect the latter sentences of the memory tool weren't a very interesting story.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Isabel Hitchings,

    I can sing you the chant I learned of the symbols for the first 20 elements but couldn't tell you what the elements are or even which letters represent the sounds I'm saying
    Hydrogen heelee beebee k-noff...

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2007 • 719 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I can sing you the chant I learned of the symbols for the first 20 elements but couldn't tell you what the elements are or even which letters represent the sounds I'm saying

    I didn't have a chant, but I was pleased to note that looking at

    Harry HE LIkes BEer By Cupfuls Not Over Flowing

    I still knew what those elements were.

    My brain has an astonishing ability to retain useless crap, like what US state particular towns are in. I do wonder if it wouldn't be good if there were some way to clean that out and use the space for useful stuff.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • Rachel Prosser,

    The answers to the six questions were C, B, D, C, C, D.

    I've long had a romantic notion that an english multi-choice test would have answers in sonnet form:

    A B A B C D C D E F E F G G

    It just appeals to the orderly bit of my mind.

    Christchurch • Since Mar 2008 • 228 posts Report Reply

  • Rachel Prosser,

    Oh, and Happy New Year everyone!

    Christchurch • Since Mar 2008 • 228 posts Report Reply

  • Rachel Prosser,

    Hmmm, now I'm musing - both posts above say I have made 91 posts on PA.

    Is this the 91st all over again, or the 93rd?

    Christchurch • Since Mar 2008 • 228 posts Report Reply

  • Rachel Prosser,

    It seems the 92nd.

    Christchurch • Since Mar 2008 • 228 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Hosking,

    I have a hunch the pneumonic way of remembering things works better for sciencey-maths types than it does for those who are into the English language.

    The trouble with 'Harry HE LIkes BEer By Cupfuls Not Over Flowing' is its a sentence which no-one would ever say. It's also a rather clumsy sentence. It grates.

    One of the best ways I found of memorising things was to make a song of them. I could still sing you the Scout Law, for example, although I don't think anyone is likely to find that a fruitful experience.

    My brain rebelled at science. At the start of fifth form we were told we'd have to memorise the formulae for making steel, superphosphate, and aluminium, because one of the three would be in the exam.

    As I could not foresee any possiblity I'd need to know how to make any of those things I contented myself with driving the teacher mad for the year.

    Of course, my rationale rather fell down because there really wasn't any prospect of me needing to know, beyond the exams, why Macbeth acted the way he did or his musing on triple tomorrows, let alone the causes of World War II or the unification of Italy.

    But I was interested in those things. God help me.

    South Roseneath • Since Nov 2006 • 830 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    @Rachel: the "Posts" count is a running total that is then updated on every post you have made; your posts don't end up sequentially numbered by the total at the time you first posted them. (It's a bit counterintuitive; took me a while to realise that was happening, too.)

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1886 posts Report Reply

  • Josh Addison,

    The trouble with 'Harry HE LIkes BEer By Cupfuls Not Over Flowing' is its a sentence which no-one would ever say.

    I dunno, we always made a point of making our mnemonics as nonsensical as we could. The Periodic Table one my mates came up with for the first ten was "Hi, HEllo, LIttle BEggers - Be Careful Now Of Furry Neanderthals"

    Now that I think about it, I remember being told by a teacher that if we wanted to come up with our own mnemonics, rude ones were easier to remember.

    Onehunga, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 298 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    I hate School!

    My eight year old has a new teacher that give out lollypops for good behavior, insights on being call Miss [redacted] and turns writing into a punishment. My daughter had to write "I will not forget my selling homework book" twenty times, because she forgot her homework book.

    That is exactly how it was done, when I was her age, over thirty years ago. The little one came out of last year full of confidence with definite signs of creative and academic potential. It the space of three weeks, here hand writing has become inhibited and shy and she's learning work for peanuts. The lollypops are handed out to children that meet the teachers expectations. The little one that had to write the twenty punitive sentences today also got a lollypop, but can't explain to me what behavior it was that earned it.

    School sucks!

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4163 posts Report Reply

  • Isabel Hitchings,

    Steven - I could cry for your wee girl. This is where kids need to know that their grown-ups are in their corner and that just because something is done at school by a teacher doesn't make it right.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2007 • 719 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Thanks, Isabel, I needed to vent that stuff where it might be understood. The wee girl assures me that she's happy at school and that the teacher is reasonable. I just don't like to see her being trained in much the same way that circus animals are. I am very sensitive about her psychological well-being. It's difficult handing her over to somebody with what appear to be rather demanding of respect, prior to earning it.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4163 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Steven - Is is possible to make an appointment to talk with the teacher about your concerns ?

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3196 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Steven - Is is possible to make an appointment to talk with the teacher about your concerns ?

    Thats kind of what upset me. My partner tried to quietly express her uncomfortable feelings about the lollypops the deputy principal. But the deputy principal turned into a big drama, suggesting the my wee girl could be exempt from the lollypops reward system, then promptly went to the teacher with her own interpretation. I know this because she rang me, asking me to explain (to my irrational wife:) that the reward system is important and that lollypops work better than stickers. And she gave me a lecture about how they have already had to stop selling sugar drinks at school because (other hysterical parents:) complained.

    I have talked to the teacher at the start of the year. And I asked that she be gentle with the valuable little one, that as parents, we don't rate the reading, writing and numeracy score on her report card highly, as evidence of good teaching. And that we would like our daughter to enjoy learning, at her own pace.

    My partner and I expressed our views, now we trust they don't fuck up.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4163 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    steven,

    from your description, this school seems a bit, um, dysfunctional.
    but even worse, they sound less than calm and reasoned.

    do they have a big sign over the staff room that says:

    "Defensiveness R Us"? ;-)

    but really, this isn't funny when your daughter is under their supervision for a large chunk of her waking hours.

    my only suggestion is that you write a note to the teacher asking (as politely and calmly as possible) what the purpose of getting your daughter to write 20 lines as punishment and what she hopes this will achieve?

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 645 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    from your description, this school seems a bit, um, dysfunctional.

    And it's a decile 10 to boot. The head is pretty good value,( if we can get past the deputy and last year we had an exceptional teacher. I think we just drew the short straw this year. I aim to be diplomatic.

    I'l bet I'm not the first parent thats had this sort of anxiety.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4163 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I'm astounded that they'd use lollipops as a reward system. Lots of children are allergic, or not allowed to have various foods. Particularly sugar and food colouring.

    I'd be tempted to suggest going the other way, and if you know any of the other parents in the class gang together and all demand that your children not be given lollipops like that.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

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