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Speaker: The CERA transition that no one wants to talk about

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  • Terry Baucher,

    But this submission process is open to all New Zealanders, and I’m asking for your help.

    I'm in. I was in Christchurch over the weekend and I was first shocked by what I saw and then angry. It was my first visit since November 2010 and when James is saying "we still have whole city blocks that look like something out of the Balkan conflict" it is no exaggeration. The city centre is akin to a vast parking lot with odd buildings dotted about.

    My brother visiting from Northern Ireland was also stunned, the more so since he went to Haiti after its big quake. In his view what he saw in Christchurch was not worthy of a developed nation.

    I appreciate that there is more going on than might meet the eye but the Christchurch rebuild is an ongoing scandal. Which, remember, all New Zealanders are paying for through taxation. We should, and must, get involved.

    Devonport • Since Nov 2008 • 91 posts Report Reply

  • Terry Baucher,

    On CERA's extensive communication staff on Sunday I was speaking to someone in Cathedral Square from a market research company who was asking for people's opinions about the city centre on behalf of CERA. Her questions weren't structured but more around what more information would be useful. I spent about 10 minutes bending the poor girl's ear about how shocked I was at the lack of progress.

    Devonport • Since Nov 2008 • 91 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    When I read this, I couldn't not make a comparison with the well-funded change-the-flag roadshow. It really is about what those in power want discussed.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie,

    People here are exhausted. They've been trying to sort their houses, their streets, their jobs and their families for going on five years now.

    But munters are so last year! Look over here where the local Journal of Record has unearthed what might be a genuine case of lèse-majesté.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    No, we are not over hearing about Christchurch. We want to hear about the shonky things which are going on and help where we can.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2539 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    That CERA web submission form is massively confusing. I have no idea what most of the questions mean.

    Do you have any views on the powers and provisions that will be needed in the new legislation to support regeneration?

    Do you think that the proposed new arrangements for the central city will create the ‘step change’ needed to drive business confidence and investment in the central city?

    Seriously, what? How can I write meaningful answers to these gibberish questions? I want to, obviously, but I'm stumped.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3887 posts Report Reply

  • hamishm,

    So not over hearing about Christchurch. I'll put this out anywhere I can.

    Since Nov 2006 • 357 posts Report Reply

  • Euan Mason,

    Couldn't agree more. We need to resume a democratic tradition in Canterbury. I've had it with King Gerry and his cohorts treating us like children.

    Canterbury • Since Jul 2008 • 259 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Graham,

    I concur: We are not past hearing about Christchurch but many of us who don't live there feel powerless to do anything. (I imagine many who live there feel the same way - in a rather more visceral way). The question is: what can we do to help?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 216 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald,

    "We know that the rest of the country is totally over hearing about Christchurch."

    No. No. No. No. No.

    Spent time with an eighty year old with a daughter in Christchurch today.

    This gentle gentleman was enraged that their home is only just now on the way to getting sorted.

    Gerry Brownlee, the government representative....the devil incarnate. In this gentle gentleman's opinion.

    This is NOT the New Zealand I want to live in.

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1344 posts Report Reply

  • Nic Farra,

    Not even the '81 Tour compares with this riding roughshod over so many people. We are tired, but not so tired that we want this flattening to go unanswered.

    New Zealand • Since Jul 2014 • 3 posts Report Reply

  • william blake,

    Letting the community take ownership? Not on John Keys' watch.

    Since Mar 2010 • 378 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    Will definitely make a submission - and encourage everyone I know to do so.
    But yeah, the CERA form is ballocks. What I would prefer is a chance to 'vote' on prefered options (no mention of 3+ or any others - except perhaps in the linked pdfs).
    People (me included) are unlikely to read chapters of CERA's opinion of what the issues and options are before giving an 'informed' opinion.
    We know the sort of things we want - we 'shared an idea' three bloody years ago (and it was pretty much ignored.)
    It's no wonder business development in central Chch is stalled. CERA don't really know what they want. King Brownlee has definite opinions which he is happy to air, which mostly aren't official rules or requirements, but who knows, they could be, he has the power. The CCC clearly don't want what the CCDU and/or Brownlee want. And they have their own set of rules and requirements.
    Who'd want to sink millions into that pit of uncertainty?

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2091 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Lilith __,

    Just the facts ma'am...

    How can I write meaningful answers to these gibberish questions? I want to, obviously, but I'm stumped.

    How can this be?
    CERA and EQC employ the finest communications practitioners in the country and heaps of them!!
    Maybe they are still using the Gattung Effect ...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7892 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1344 posts Report Reply

  • bob daktari,

    Another one for the not sick of hearing about Christchurch, want to hear more and to help where one can

    With the lose of CampbellLive a very important source of Christchurch story telling and new has vanished so please more of this here and on your own blog James - much appreciated the efforts you and so many other do on behalf of the city and its people!

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 538 posts Report Reply

  • Moz,

    Have submitted (so to speak). Was polite, but it took a lot of effort to edit polite into what I wanted to say. They emailed me a copy of it, 900 words, which is kinda scary for a basically "give the locals control" submission.

    Summary:

    The council needs more power to override central government inertia.

    I suggest flipping most of the powers, and allow the council to take action against the minister when he doesn't carry out his duties appropriately. When a plan is made the council should be able to influence the plan, and once it's committed to they should be able to force the minister to implement it. They should also be able to force the minister to come up with a plan when he doesn't do so, and the alternative should be that the council can implement their plan using the minister's budget. Simply saying "council can complain about ministerial inaction" hasn't worked.

    Sydney, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 1198 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Joe Wylie,

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    Let them eat quake!

    … the local Journal of Record has unearthed what might be a genuine case of lèse-majesté.

    I was kinda appalled by Cecile Meier’s folding on this issue – especially in light of her impassioned plea for the freedom to express ideas and outrage earlier in the year;
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/64812723/Response-to-Charlie-Hebdo-massacre-embodies-French-values

    On Thursday morning I was in bed with my phone, crying as I read news report after news report about the deadly shooting at French satirical publication Charlie Hebdo.
    But when I came across a French satirical news show’s take on the event, a reluctant chuckle escaped me.
    The show is called Les Guignols de l’Info – “The News Puppets" – and features spoof alter-egos of newsmakers, and a lot of swearing.
    The evening after the shooting, the show featured French president Francois Hollande’s puppet lamenting the cartoonists loss: “I want Charlie Hebdo to keep ridiculing me, I want them to draw me with a fat belly and a small willy again.”
    The presenter responded: “True. Charlie Hebdo doesn’t only do caricatures."

    and

    Satire is a vital and ingrained part of French media. As such, most of my French Facebook friends changed their profile picture to “I am Charlie” on Thursday. Many expressed their shock and support for freedom of expression.
    The French declaration of human rights, which has constitutional value, states: “The free communication of thoughts and of opinions is one of the most precious rights of man.”
    In addition, the Press Law guarantees freedom of the press, subject to exceptions including incitement to hatred, discrimination, slander and racial insults. This includes the freedom to ridicule powerful figures. And Charlie Hebdo did just that. They poked fun at pretty much everyone and everything, from Michael Jackson to Muhammad, politicians, Jesus and the Pope – no-one was safe. They did this to make people laugh and show that nothing should be taken too seriously, not even religion.

    Je suis C1…

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7892 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    I was kinda appalled by Cecile Meier’s folding on this issue – especially in light of her impassioned plea for the freedom to express ideas and outrage earlier in the year

    Thanks for making that connection. Surely one's permitted to wonder just how they went about making La Meier one of "us". At least John McCrone hasn't been "got to" yet by whatever sniffily cynical cabal decides these things when they're not compiling Chch "power lists".

    From the Press's recent impassioned sighing over Simon Barnett's "dad bod" it's plain that the vacuum from Bob Parker's distant implosion still casts its hollow spell. As for the CERA communication team, do they really do anything apart from click down derogatory comments about Gerry while troughing from the same muffin mine that the Press once scolded the poor old Parkeress for helping herself to?

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Moz, in reply to Russell Brown,

    When I read this, I couldn't not make a comparison with the well-funded change-the-flag roadshow. It really is about what those in power want discussed.

    And how much they're willing to spend to distract people.

    Sydney, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 1198 posts Report Reply

  • TracyMac,

    I was there last week. I was appalled at how little – still – had been done since I’d been there a couple of years ago. A sea of “car parks”. A couple of bridges finished out by New Brighton. Great – but only just completed? Holy hell.

    Also, a complex web submission form and no public meetings? That sounds inclusive of the less-technologically enabled among us, not.

    Canberra, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 701 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    Well, thank heavens. An intelligible thing to submit! Go to it, folks, just enter your name and any further thoughts. Thank you, Action Station.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3887 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe,

    Free Christchurch: so many things to say, and it all comes down to this.

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2896 posts Report Reply

  • Graham Dunster,

    The ever reliable Rod Oram’s column from yesterday’s SST is relevant – http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/70516151/Rod-Oram-The-great-rates-debate . (Why is it that it is so incredibly difficult to access articles on Stuff? Surely a search for Rod’s columns should give a list in date order descending from the last one, not random stuff from 2009. As the only worthwhile part of the whole paper a little more support would not go astray.)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2009 • 184 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Graham Dunster,

    (Why is it that it is so incredibly difficult to access articles on Stuff? Surely a search for Rod's columns should give a list in date order descending from the last one, not random stuff from 2009. As the only worthwhile part of the whole paper a little more support would not go astray.)

    Your link gave me what effectively is yet another plug for Whittaker's chocolate posing as a news story. I suspect that partly answers the question of why finding the thin vein of real stuff has gotten so tricky.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

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