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Speaker: Are we seeing the end of MSM, and is that a good thing?

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  • steven crawford,

    Media watch, about the Labour party (promise?) to sort public broadcasting.

    I expect the Green party to go on Twitter and bloody fix this!

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to steven crawford,

    bloody fix this

    Raising the dead is a thankless task, anyway they cant walk on water, colour similarity or no.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1881 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to andin,

    they cant walk on water

    Unless its under thin ice. Besides, they are in a position of influence. They can do politicking. They can sign up to give-a-little, an online patition or show some leadership and organise a public meeting on Facebook.com.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to steven crawford,

    organise a public meeting

    Ah but the painted ponies who front the cesspool/crocodile pit that is the remains of public broadcasting may not be able to schedule it into their lifes. Poor luvs!
    We're in freefall now, and some one packed up the safety nets.
    How high can we bounce off a hard surface?
    (Is the only question that remains to be answered.)

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1881 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to andin,

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    Ah but the painted ponies

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    For The Whinny!

    If only it were more “Hair!” and less “Harrumph!”

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1886 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to linger,

    Yes, it was the genius of talk back radio combined with TAB gambling and proper cigarets without stupid taxation. Any grown man, could get half pissed then telephone in to clear the air with an opinion after the mainstream news. And the transister radio suppled dopamine around the track side combinatory. Everyone was well rounded and just got on with the job.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    Terrible editorial judgement on TV1 news tonight. They gave a platform to a far-right guy, the sole source of the story. He cast himself as a victim, and the reporter (Thomas Mead) played along. There was no independent reporting, they simply relayed his phone footage. He then got to make his claims, was not challenged in an interview, with no evidence of any wrongdoing by police, nothing to merit this even being a story, let alone a lead.

    What were they thinking?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1319 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Radio New Zealand featured an interview with Shoshana Zuboff about her book, The Age of Surveillance Capitalism.

    She talked about “behavioural data for analysis”.

    And how the Internet is now using us.

    https://embed.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2018702304/surveillance-capitalism-and-how-the-internet-is-using-us

    There you go, thats good quality public broadcasting. Take it or leave it, your choice.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    "Taupō wastewater spill makes way up river",

    Thats what happens in this topsy turvy world, fact checking takes a back seat.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    All, sorted, the editor had logged on and fixed the
    nonsensical headlines. Luckily it was only digital and cheap.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Google, don’t be evil. Andrew Little, on his Facebook page, pleading with the tech giants to please not trample on our legal sovereignty.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    So we learned of all that as Donald Trump would say “fake news” about Facebook allowing its behavioural data for analysis technology, to be used in the aid of installing an idiot President into the United State.

    I went online, as you do, to find out if it’s wise for New Zealand politicians to be associating with these sorts of organisations. That is by actually endorsing, particularly Facebook, by politicking from the platform. My extensive evidence-based research, reminded me that the people who now have the power and willingness to corrupt democratic democracies with dirty politics can be very polite people. Just like nice Mr John Key.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Good paper here:
    Computational Propaganda Worldwide: Executive Summary.
    Big research summary from University of Oxford.

    I was surprised by the proportion of bot activity that was on Twitter.

    Twitter bots constituted over 10% of the sample, and they reached highly influential network positions within retweet networks during the 2016 US election.

    Poland:

    There is a clear industry of producing and managing fake accounts and automation over multiple platforms. A tiny number of right wing accounts generate 20% of the political content over Twitter.

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I see this as something to be alarmed about. It’s clear by looking at the research data, that these propaganda technologies are being widely deployed on the big social network platforms, and they are becoming increasingly discreet. I think there is reason for concern before the upcoming referendum and election towards the end of next year The bulk of political discourse in New Zealand, appears from my view, to be conducted within the confines of the same social media platforms that are know to have large portions of automated human behaviour manipulation technology operating.

    Mainstream media is people like Mike Hosking, and Twitter and Facebook and RNZ and the news paper companies reporting on what people say on Twitter or Facebook and what someone said on Twitter about Mike Hosking and what Mike Hosking said in response. And automated human behaviour prediction technologies are also part of what is now the mainstream media.

    I trust that someone will point out if this is stepping over into the odd ball land of conspiracy theory.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Stuff news, has produced a journalistic article about Donald Trump, saying something stupid. A big part of this journalistic article is about the witty things people are saying on Twitter about the stupid shit Donald Trump said. And the all important, how many people are talking about how stupid Donald Trump is.

    Nearly every person on the entire planet thinks Donald Trump is an idiot!

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    The Trump administration charged Facebook with digital redlining. That is the targeting of people to not see advertising of housing. Facebook provided the tools to make that discrimination happen.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Here is a link to Russell’s Internet of things articles. https://www.sparklab.co.nz/articles/demystifying-the-internet-of-things/

    Really cool topic and a pleasure to read. But the no follow up dissuasion is a shame. It would have been nice to see people adding comments which could expand our understanding of this evolving environment, as a collective.

    OMG, it’s important to understand what makes the Internet of things tick. It’s also important to stay one step ahead of your social media algorithms, and not forget to think creatively about hacking them just a little bit, IMHO.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    In the aftermath of the mosque massacre, Stuff reviewed its comments policy, and made some changes, mostly positive in my view. The trolling went down, the moderating got stronger, and it became much less of a platform for unchallenged bigotry.

    It appears that was only temporary. The sewer of Stuff comments is back ...

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/115044220/tough-struggle-on-road-to-pacific-islands-forum-climate-communique

    I don't know if this is a deliberate policy decision, or just dropping the ball, but it's a sad sight. Especially as the website overall still delivers some of NZ's best daily journalism.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1319 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    re: Dropping the ball…
    I note above one of the perils of employing older caption subs at Stuff
    - a screen shot from a recent Aldous Harding story

    Forgive them, for they know too much…
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7885 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to steven crawford,

    Here is a link to Russell’s Internet of things articles.

    ...and not one mention of Moore's Law - that is restraint.
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7885 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    https://ministryofgifs.org

    If anyone would like to feed the Twitter.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4294 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

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