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Legal Beagle: The Northland by-election; or The so-called Tizard Effect

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  • BenWilson, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    Good piece by Matthew Hooton on that very point.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    That's an excellent piece from Hooton.

    In related news, Winston states that he'll vote against TPPA.

    Peters says his party will stop the National government from passing the TPPA agreement.

    "Trust me I know what we're going to do here. We'll stop them passing this law.

    "It's about foreign corporates suing you as a taxpayer. That's a challenge to this country's democracy which has been going for 167 years.

    "It's about our sovereignty and right to make our own laws. It's no longer a trade deal. Worse still how can you pass a judgement on a contract you've never seen."

    This doesn't mean the end of TPPA. But if Winnie wins in Northland, the pressure goes on Peter Dunne. Does he want to be remembered as the man who undermined New Zealand's sovereignty in exchange for a comfortable overseas posting?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to BenWilson,

    Good piece by Matthew Hooton on that very point.

    He's been pretty consistently taking this line re Key and his truthiness.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Paul Williams,

    He’s been pretty consistently taking this line re Key and his truthiness

    And about time. Nothing has changed with this corporate money trading gangster. It seems that only now has the blinkers come off so really Hooton's slow off the mark and he's finally being joined by other journalists who, some of which, still find it hard to swallow, that their teflon man hasn't given them the promised pony. I said it back then, I'll say it again, John Key is dangerous, he is hurting us, and it is blatantly obvious ,he doesn't care if others hurt all of us. Even the most vulnerable and defenseless. The losses are piling up. All that happens with this Government is one loss after another.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    So Northland ,did ya get out and vote? I advanced voted at the only place in a 50 mile radius. I hope for change.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • A C Young, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Looks like you have your change =)

    Wellington • Since Feb 2011 • 35 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Yes, there is a new King In The North. Now, can he survive a season?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    Memo to NZ Herald: We love the cricket, but this by-election is actually news ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1333 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to BenWilson,

    Yes, there is a new King In The North. Now, can he survive a season?

    Of course he can, he's like one of those Happy Meals that never decay. Eventually of course some child will prod it, causing it to crumble to nutrient-free dust, but anyone hoping for that to befall Winston better plan on a long wait.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to simon g,

    this by-election is actually news …

    The proles seem to be a bit distracted at the mo' perhaps they wont notice too much.
    Apologies to Mr Orwell...

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    A 13,000-vote swing in six months. Sure, tactical voting, but my goodness.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • 81stcolumn, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Not a knockout punch but a bit more than a bloody nose eh!

    Nawthshaw • Since Nov 2006 • 790 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to ,

    would an adult toys

    was this as part of a splinter group? *winces*

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1944 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    Pity, I rather liked the idea of associating Happy Meals with adult toys.
    But then, Maccas in Japan have been having enough problems already with adulterated foodstuffs.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1944 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell, in reply to BenWilson,

    Yes, there is a new King In The North. Now, can he survive a season?

    Winter is coming John

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2623 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to BenWilson,

    Yes, there is a new King In The North. Now, can he survive a season?

    Gettysburg-on-the-Hokianga, much?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Gettysburg-on-the-Hokianga

    A new St Petersburg?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    Winter is coming John

    A Game of Over Throwns!
    (conflating the weekend's two big stories...)

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    From blimmin' istuff

    Key was nowhere to be seen in Kerikeri on Saturday night, preferring to head to Melbourne for Sunday's World Cup cricket final.

    "run John run
    cause they got a gun
    and they aiming it at your head"

    Thanks to Lieber & Stoller and The Coasters

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to ,

    This is what we’re talking about

    Aha!
    Adult rated inedible foodstuffs...
    is there a related 'bauble-blower'?
    :- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to ,

    Captain sensible

    Elfish has left the building...
    Looks like The Dunne-witch Horror!
    aka Satan's Little Helper...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to 81stcolumn,

    Not a knockout punch but a bit more than a bloody nose eh!

    It was left to Jessie Ryder to deliver the weekend's actual knockout punch.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to 81stcolumn,

    Not a knockout punch but a bit more than a bloody nose eh!

    I would say after glancing the Harold and saw
    Ex Cricketer and blogger bloodbath?
    then Stuff giving yet another image of the Oily, I can only infer that my day has started out well.
    Gosh, timing is everything innit?
    Now I'm just off to send congrats to Winston. National thought spending large swathes of money would keep Northland, to many a person disgusted up here, I'm so glad my new abode is in a place where there has been a display from every booth that National are not good enough.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    That he got punched out in less than one round by a professional athlete wasn't that surprising. But that he lost 17kg is. He should have gone in The Biggest Loser with those sort of numbers.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Several points on the election.
    First, of course,we should have a good look at the election spending of National. I can't see how they could put that number of feet on the ground, let alone the limos. The number of hoardings and signs should have broken the budget on their own.
    An annoying factor is that after Little said Willow Jean would get in "By hook or by crook" it was picked up by a media that seems to have no ability to understand common idioms
    By hook or by crook

    This phrase formerly meant "by fair means or foul", although now
    it often (especially in the U.K.) means simply "by whatever
    necessary means". The first recorded use is by John Wycliffe in
    _Controversial Tracts_ (circa 1380). Theories include: a law or
    custom in mediaeval England that allowed peasants to take as
    firewood from the King's forests any deadwood that they could reach
    with a shepherd's crook and cut off with a reaper's billhook.

    But with the understanding of a giggling forth form schoolboy, or Steven Joyce, it was forced down our throats as "Andrew Little is a crook" yeah, thanks for that.
    For all those that say Winston can't actually do anything, well. National know that they will have to chuck large bundles of cash at the North to have any hope of a win in 2017 so at least they will have to build those bridges, even if they turn out to be metaphorical.

    Northport and the proposed railhead are a good start and would relive the roading situation, allowing more to be spent on improving existing roads over the construction of "nice to have" motorways to the batch.
    Well done Winston, they don't like it up them, as Lance-Corporal Jones would have said.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

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