Legal Beagle by Graeme Edgeler

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Legal Beagle: Referendum Fact Check #1

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  • Daveosaurus,

    My suggestion of how to organise public rankings of list MPs is this:

    Parties select and arrange their party lists as at present.
    Voters choose their electorate MP and vote for a party list as at present.
    Once final vote counts are available, list places are filled in the following order:
    The list candidate and unsuccessful electorate candidate with the greatest number of electorate votes;
    The list candidate and unsuccessful electorate candidate with the next greatest number of electorate votes;
    and so on, and so forth, until there are no electorate candidates left on the party list, at which point the remaining list places are filled from the remaining list members in the order in which they were arranged by their party.

    To me this seems a fairly simple formula, one which wouldn't change what is expected of a voter at the polling booth and which neutralises the argument that candidates rejected by the electorate 'sneak' in on the list; if an electorate candidate is comprehensively rejected by the voters, they have much less chance of getting in on the list than if they had widespread support, but just not quite as much support as the winning candidate.

    Somewhere out there • Since Apr 2010 • 7 posts Report Reply

  • Graeme Edgeler, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Actually, I was being flippant – I wouldn’t think Bomber would be up for elected office, but maybe he feels otherwise? (They make you wear a suit, FFS)

    I know.

    But that doesn't mean the information in response can't be helpful.

    Have you seen Bomber? He's always wearing a tie!

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Graeme Edgeler,

    He's doing a damn good job as a journalist, too.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Yup, I doubt there will be too much "play the ball and not the man" arguments when it comes to that revelation, it will be "sub the man, and hope no one notices he was ever here". Well done, Bomber!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    The list candidate and unsuccessful electorate candidate with the greatest number of electorate votes;
    The list candidate and unsuccessful electorate candidate with the next greatest number of electorate votes;
    and so on, and so forth, until there are no electorate candidates left on the party list, at which point the remaining list places are filled from the remaining list members in the order in which they were arranged by their party.

    Effectively you're forcing all candidates to run in an electorate. By the time you got down to 'no electorate candidates left on the party list', not many parties would have seats left to allocate. Maybe national if an election was held now and they didn't stand in the Maori electorates?

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

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