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Hard News: You've got to listen to the music

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  • Geoff Lealand,

    My daughter is seeking more information on 'the most interesting leotard' worn by Peaches (NZH review of BDO).

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Some of the points it makes are blindingly self-evident (eg 'alternative' is just another genre or marketing slot) but it is interesting that these view are expressed by a marketing type.

    As you say, it's jam-packed with the bleeding obvious.

    He uses the phrases "counter-culture" and "counter-cultural" 14 times in one column without establishing that the BDO organisers have made any such claim for it, or that the punters see it that way.

    He makes the point that even an "alternative" festival will "still need a functioning capitalist system" -- obvious to the point of redundancy -- as if it's some sizzling insight.

    Actually, nobody goes to the Big Day Out thinking they're overthrowing capitalism. Where would we buy our sneakers? His comparisons with Woodstock and Altamont are fatuous, his grasp on how BDO punters might actually distinguish themselves culturally, non-existent.

    It's an amusingly misconceived piece of rubbish. I don't think I'd be in a hurry to purchase research insights from Mr Dodd on the basis of this.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    What the Hell is a 'follower of Russell Crowe'??

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    What the Hell is a 'follower of Russell Crowe'??

    They're the opposition. Crowey and me are going to find a paddock and let our respective armies have it out.

    Apparently, if my team wins, capitalism's over.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Yeah, this is the same BS attitude that says I'm a hypocrite if I'm critical of capitalism yet... still buy my food from a supermarket! Sorry, but I live in Sandringham, so if I don't buy food, I'll be surviving on a diet of mostly cats.

    And the idea that BDO is "counter-culture"? It's been the biggest event on the youth calender for the best part of 20 years!

    Severely out of touch, that man.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • philipmatthews,

    His use of the term "counter-culture" just reveals how much his argument owes to the book Rebel Sell (which he does cite). Is it a term that gets used in NZ much, especially within discussion about alternative music? I wouldn't have thought so. It's a term that came with the argument he borrowed from the US.

    Anyway. I've seen Gladiator -- my money's on Crowey.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Crowey and me are going to find a paddock and let our respective armies have it out.

    As long as there are no skirts&sandals!

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    They're the opposition. Crowey and me are going to find a paddock and let our respective armies have it out.

    My almost sole claim to fame is R Crowe throwing me in the freezer at The Venue on my 16th birthday. So if you want a legionnaire with the bloodlust, I'm your man.

    Jeez, Campbell Smith was trying it on a bit when he told Mikey yesterday morning that they'd created a great environment for Local Produce -- it was more Guantanamo Bay than Hawke's Bay.

    Yeah. It was certainly more Gravel Pit than Passion Pit.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    I didn't BDO this year for the exact reason that it is totally capitalistic. The event is just another big marketing ploy with music as the draw card, it is about as counter cultural as the Home Show, geez, Timaru's A&P Show would be more counter cultural and with a greater choice of beer. [citation needed]
    In fact here's a freebie for the Ashburton Agricultural & Pastoral Association, a slogan.
    "Forget the Big Day Out.
    Timaru A&P Show,
    See the cattle, don't be the cattle."
    (yeah I know, it's not on till October, but what the hey?)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    Whereas the Kumeu Classic Car and Hotrod show is on today. You want counter culture, how's them apples?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Ahh, Westie culture.
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    <quote>Ahh, Westie culture.</qoute>

    Way out west, there is the Kai Festival at Kawhia on Feb 6.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    businesspeople not in the know will still be wondering why so many of their younger staff called in sick this morning

    And someone might gently have a word in Mr Dodd's ear about this thing we Earth people call 'the weekend'.

    What a twerp.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    One could argue that in this respect, the clear commercialism of Britney Spears is actually more 'authentic' and 'honest' than the apparent affectations of the BDO brand position.

    Ok, so I'm reading in larger font now, and this really needs to be slam dunked. Can someone please throw me a lob, 'cause the basket [case] is open, and the defenders are all checking they didn't get a text from Russell Crowe.

    Any 'movement' or sub-culture, from 1950's beatniks through to hippies, punks, Goths, EMOs and metalheads, as well as homeopaths, New Agers, Linux-users, fair-traders

    Anyone feeling left out?

    Sorry, we have to give him a late breaking contradiction.

    One has to conclude that the authenticity is truly there - it is an excellent brand.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    Real is the new fake.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    Brown is the new Moses.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    Russell Brown or Russell Brand, that is the question.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Russell Brown or Russell Brand, that is the question.

    Oh, well played sir.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    Brand Brown.

    Can we get PAS declared a cult, so we can get banned in China [thread splice].

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    PS As I have just read Graham Reid's excellent review of the BDO, perhaps I should have let this go, and jumped on that bandwagon instead.

    I wasn't ready for this thread to die, and I certainly didn't want to be the one who killed it. So can we move passed the cult of personalities and get back to some Video tennis?

    As I swayed in the crush of the BDO throng, this strangely came to mind. More 80s low-brow.

    Oh, yes, and while we're in that mood, how about this?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

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