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Hard News: WOTY: The Kindness Scandal

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  • linger,

    (TL;DR it's more important to do it and live it than worry about the label or the definition, eh.)

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1940 posts Report Reply

  • Neil, in reply to Sacha,

    Interested to hear how you think other people will respond to what you have said here

    I’m not sure I know what you mean. Perhaps my song reference was too obscure.

    Since Nov 2016 • 380 posts Report Reply

  • Neil, in reply to ,

    TERFs are not feminists in ether option.

    I’m not sure how classifying some women feminists as not being feminists is going to protect trans woman from violence - which is carried out by men.

    Since Nov 2016 • 380 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB, in reply to ,

    TERFs are not feminists in ether option.

    So, if the F in TERF stands for Feminists, and anyone fitting the description of TERF cannot possibly be a feminists, obviously we are all discussing a type of person that doesn't actually exist?

    That does not seem logical (or even plausible).

    I suspect it's more complex than this?

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 893 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB, in reply to ,

    And what does that word mean?

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 893 posts Report Reply

  • Neil, in reply to ,

    So maybe, is it reasonable to say that excluding trans women from say womens prisons under the feminist banner might be a little bit sick?

    I would agree with that. I work in a hospital setting where there is from time to time trans women and they are considered as women including risk from men.

    None of the staff though would have any idea of all this argument over TERF and would just go fuck off with that nonsense.

    People can be good to others or bad to others and it doesn’t have much to do with what a small number of activists get worked up about.

    Since Nov 2016 • 380 posts Report Reply

  • Neil, in reply to ,

    Thats reassuring.

    My colleagues do a lot of good in difficult circumstances and we often argue about what is actually the situation.

    Since Nov 2016 • 380 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Closing the thread for Christmas. Kind thoughts all!

    x

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

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