Hard News: Who are the medicinal cannabis users?
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Sacha, in reply to
onya, Joe
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I can now report that given Andrew Little's announcement about imminent abortion law liberalisation, Family First regards pandering to vicious misogynist religious fanatics over women's reproductive choices to take precedence over prohibiting personal use of recreational cannabis. Bob isn't too good at strategic planning and multiple issue management. He's asking his sycophants for dosh. One can only assume that this time, the US Christian Right isn't bankrolling him as it usually does (the World Congress of Families, in case anyone's interested).
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Joe Boden, in reply to
I can now report that given Andrew Little’s announcement about imminent abortion law liberalisation, Family First regards pandering to vicious misogynist religious fanatics over women’s reproductive choices to take precedence over prohibiting personal use of recreational cannabis. Bob isn’t too good at strategic planning and multiple issue management. He’s asking his sycophants for dosh. One can only assume that this time, the US Christian Right isn’t bankrolling him as it usually does (the World Congress of Families, in case anyone’s interested).
Bob has trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time. Works for me!
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Is this a fair argument? Some would say that there has been ample discussion of the pros and cons of the decriminalisation/legalisation of personal cannabis use within the New Zealand media: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@ideasroom/2019/08/13/751236/cannabis-legalisation-ok-idea-bad-timing
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Joe Boden, in reply to
Is this a fair argument? Some would say that there has been ample discussion of the pros and cons of the decriminalisation/legalisation of personal cannabis use within the New Zealand media: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@ideasroom/2019/08/13/751236/cannabis-legalisation-ok-idea-bad-timing</q>
The argument is ok - a cautious approach is not usually a bad thing - but the author makes several statements that are just plain wrong.
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Cannabis use is declining amongst New Zealand teenagers: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/cannabis-use-among-kiwi-high-school-students-has-declined-new-research-finds
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steven crawford, in reply to
Somewhat diminishes the power of “The gangs” are dealing dope to the kids!!! as an argument for legalising cannabis. But it is an “evidenced based” reason for prescribing cannabis to cannabis addicts as a regulatory solution to reduce harm.
Kind of sucks the air out of cannabis being cool, as a thing to be all over social media about. But if its medicine and it's also a recreational drug - it's both good for sick people and healthy people, that would solve every problem.
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So if the referendum fails to deliver on pro legalise peoples expectations, regulating it will not stop evolving and happening.
Opiates are legal and regulated in this country, where is the harm in that?
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Adolescent cannabis use is becoming uncool, especially amongst Maori youth: https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/16-08-2019/weed-is-going-out-of-fashion-and-maori-kids-are-leading-the-way/
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Adolescent cannabis use is becoming uncool, especially amongst Maori youth
Credit may be due the previous Labour coalition government for those bums on seats education policies. The investment in arts and humanities education, I argue, has been a positive cultural stimulus. Those kids are getting the kick from the brain chemicals that come with learning stuff.
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Is this a particularly credible opinion poll, do you think?: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/08/new-poll-suggests-recreational-cannabis-referendum-won-t-pass.html
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Sacha, in reply to
Illustrates how to not support something as a government - be quiet and let opponents fill the space. CGT, anyone?
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Sorry, as usual Family First is weaving all over the place, given that it can't decide whether to prioritise anti-abortion activism or opposing decriminalisation of cannabis for personal use.ie
https://www.familyfirst.org.nz/2019/08/hospitalisation-for-marijuana-continues-to-increase/
https://www.familyfirst.org.nz/2019/08/new-zealand-cannabis-hospitalisations-more-than-double-in-decade-ministry-of-health/ -
steven crawford, in reply to
Sorry, as usual Family First is weaving all over the place, given that it can’t decide whether to prioritise anti-abortion activism or opposing decriminalisation of cannabis for personal use.ie
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“At a time when New Zealand’s mental health system is bursting at the seams, why would we legitimise a mind-altering product…"
Legitimising, isn’t the same as legalising. Nether is decriminalising.
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If it's any consolation, strategic management isn't Family First's forte. They can be combatted with consistent, strategically planned on message lobbying, media monitoring and prompt response. It worked against him when it came to marriage equality and the ban against parental corporal punishment, it'll work against him here. Bob never seems to learn from his mistakes.
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Now this is facile. Some subspecies of recreational cannabis than others. However, cannabis use is dropping amongst adolescents according to current New Zealand and other data:
https://www.familyfirst.org.nz/2019/08/teens-who-use-concentrated-marijuana-more-likely-to-use-other-drugs/ -
Apparently, some of those Bob McCoskrie analogs are also highly addictive. Its appearing on Twitter that synthetic McCoskrie has been even harder for journalists to resist than those early opinionoids derived from the toxic pro-smacking family. Some are calling for a ban, while other more moderate voices are calling for harm reduction measures such as dark web isolation wet tanks.
Personally, I insist on evidence-based analogies which associate fried eggs with brains as the only true answer to the McCoskrie epidemic!
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He's baaa-aacck. But why did Scoop have to feature this riposte to Helen Clark's endorsement of cannabis decriminalisation? I know who I believe and it isn't a fundamentalist Christian activist who has no relevant qualifications or expertise in professional areas related to this issue: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1909/S00041/the-case-for-no-in-the-2020-referendum-on-cannabis.htm
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