Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: UPDATED: Media Take: Election Songs

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  • Stephen R, in reply to steven crawford,

    in the privet/public cusp.

    Leaning on the hedge, as it were?

    Wellington • Since Jul 2009 • 259 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Chris Waugh,

    Nor does it read as such. It’s much more “this is what I’ve been doing” than “vote for me!”

    It seems to me and I think this needs closer attention, that if the material is coming from a left leaning site/person then the Electoral Commission gets their heckles up and wags the waggyfinger. I see no such thing pertaining to right whingers. Please correct me if you have seen such fairness.
    I suppose you could, at a pinch, say stating support for the incumbent is doing nothing, nothing to see here, just keeping things the way they are, is not advertising, as opposed to... "new, improved, fairer, more shiny Cunliffe, removes Whale Oil Stains in a single wipe" which would be seen as an ad.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    (look you can see the Greens in there)

    Really? A wheelbarrow of dirt, a log, a bucket of something being carried on someone's head, a cartload of grass (not even bothering to refine it into milk any more? Shipped all the cows overseas, too?)... I see a lot of extractive industries using the Stumbo bridge to ship NZ's natural resources overseas. And one person with a suitcase and another with a sack - recent graduates disappearing overseas? (hmmm.... sounds familiar.... ). And green fish looking on in surprise? Dismay?

    Back to the drawing board.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Please correct me if you have seen such fairness.

    No, as wonderful as the internet is, I think those of you actually in NZ are better placed to be the judge of that. I won't be back for another few months, so my view of what is happening is still rather limited.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Pharmachick, in reply to Greg Dawson,

    yes Greg, my definition of a "foreign millionaire" is "born overseas". As I stated, clearly, in my post - we also have enough problems with out homegrown millionaires and influence peddlers.

    Since Apr 2009 • 35 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Chris Waugh,

    Nah that's the North and South Islands yer looking at...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Nah that’s the North and South Islands yer looking at

    The Chch rebuild exodus.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I hadn't watched any of the new series, the streaming experience back on TV3 was incredibly frustrating and in the end I just had to give it a miss. Media Take on the other hand streams like a baby. The theme tune is your best yet, no frills, fat as the kauri trunk. The colour scheme, more reminiscent of what you've got going on here, is perfect. Toi is great, you are great, your greetings were a laugh and the overall energy is palpable. Looking forward to catching up on the rest.

    Mate atu tētē kura, whakaeke mai he tētē kura

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to chris,

    Kia ora!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I do wonder if we could enroll young people better if you could sign them up once they turned 17, so you could enroll people as part of year 13 at high school - say July or August.

    And then put them on a holding roll until they turned 18. Even if they moved in between you're likely to have their parents address for many of them.

    It does seem strange that so much work goes into getting people onto the roll, when some months or a year earlier we had them all sitting in a room twiddling their thumbs, looking forward to the day when they could buy alcohol legally (and vote).

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Nimmo, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    I thought we did have such a provisional roll? I certainly remember being on it two elections ago!

    Wellington • Since May 2009 • 97 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie,

    More useful than a provisional roll, just let people vote at 16. Voting's a habit and people are more deeply tied into communities when 16-18, at school & home, than when living in flats often in different cities.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    No, as wonderful as the internet is, I think those of you actually in NZ are better placed to be the judge of that.

    Any takers on that? I still can't find any evidence of the Commission rattling any cages on the Right. Could it be they are clean as the proverbial whistle or is their boss glowering in their direction?.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Any takers on that? I still can’t find any evidence of the Commission rattling any cages on the Right. Could it be they are clean as the proverbial whistle or is their boss glowering in their direction?.

    Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren't currently movement to anger.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren't currently movement to anger.

    Gray Bartlett's one of the very few overt ones, and he goes way back to "The Ballad of Robbie Muldoon".

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5419 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren’t currently movement to anger.

    I'm not sure if Ebony were left or right, but "Big Norm" was hardly complimentary to Norman Kirk PM (even if he did wish them luck).

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Turns out they were left(ish) and just capitalising on circumstances.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Greg Dawson,

    He only reigns until his foes stop fumbling

    nice turn of phrase. onya

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to nzlemming,

    I’m not sure if Ebony were left or right, but “Big Norm” was hardly complimentary to Norman Kirk PM (even if he did wish them luck).

    My memory is that the song was very much seen as affectionate.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    My memory is that the song was very much seen as affectionate.

    Yeah, my memory was based on the words rather than the reaction.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    I was really impressed with Laura's strategic grasp of what was needed. Eyes wide open. Am donating to RockEnrol as a result.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren’t currently movement to anger.

    Gray Bartlett’s one of the very few overt ones, and he goes way back to “The Ballad of Robbie Muldoon”.

    Suzanne Prentice dedicated I Wish I Was Waltzing With You to Muldoon when performing at an event during National's losing 1984 campaign, but I doubt if it was written with him in mind.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren’t currently movement to anger.

    And an even bigger part of it is the Electoral Commission is there not to be "fair" but to apply the law, even if it's a bit of a flustercluck, in the world as it is. Any one seriously want to suggest there would be a different reaction if the track was called Silent T rather than Planet Key? Seriously?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    as I said, the right doesn't need to resort to singing about change. They has resources and connections for that.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Max Call, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    I do wonder if we could enroll young people better if you could sign them up once they turned 17, so you could enroll people as part of year 13 at high school - say July or August.

    And then put them on a holding roll until they turned 18. Even if they moved in between you're likely to have their parents address for many of them.

    It does seem strange that so much work goes into getting people onto the roll, when some months or a year earlier we had them all sitting in a room twiddling their thumbs, looking forward to the day when they could buy alcohol legally (and vote)

    they do.
    We had someone come and get all the Year 13s who were 18 or who would be 18 by the election to fill in a form.

    Fruit Bowl of New Zealand… • Since Jun 2007 • 153 posts Report Reply

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