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  • Rich Lock,

    What in the world would you have them do?

    When it comes to important shit like this, raise their fucking game, not to put too fine a point on it.

    I quote from the 'stuff story' currently on their website:

    PASSENGER DISAPPOINTED AT RESPONSE

    A Christchurch father onboard the infected Air New Zealand flight from Los Angeles, who did not want to be named, said he was disappointed with the response from health officials. "I'm a bit hacked off with the Department of Health."

    Since visiting an emergency 24-hour doctor surgery he had had no contact with health officials.

    He had purchased two courses of Tamiflu at a cost of $160, which he planned to take as a precaution.

    "I just want to eliminate any risks," he told Stuff.co.nz this afternoon.

    He believed Tamiflu treatment for the 360-odd passengers on board NZ1 from Los Angeles should be mandatory, particularly as there was a stockpile of 1.2 million Tamiflu treatments following the Sars outbreak.

    "They could stamp it out for the [nearly] 400 people onboard. But potentially by now they could have tens-of-thousands of people exposed to it."

    Well, gosh. Who should we ask about the best course of action for this potentially extremely serious flu outbreak?

    A Doctor?

    A biologist?

    A government representative?

    No, don't be daft! Lets just verbatim quote the UTTERLY UNINFORMED OPINION OF SOME RANDOM MOUTH WHO HAPPENED TO BE ON THE PLANE! WHAT A FUCKING GREAT IDEA! HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!

    Yes, I am angry about this. As Russell has pointed out, all this shit may or may not amount to a hill of beans, but potentially it's quite serious.

    So, in my opinion, it is very, very important that the media gets both facts and tone exactly right in order to avoid scaring the horses.

    Verbatim quoting some random, especially when he lobs the odd grenade like this into the story (and let me quote again):

    "They could stamp it out for the [nearly] 400 people onboard. But potentially by now they could have tens-of-thousands of people exposed to it."

    ZOMG!!!!! WE'VE ALL BEEN EXPOSED!!!!!!! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!

    Stuff? FAIL.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Lyndon Hood,

    Here comes the Science Media Centre

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1115 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    SOME RANDOM MOUTH WHO HAPPENED TO BE ON THE PLANE! WHAT A FUCKING GREAT IDEA!

    I've had enough of this motherfucking flu on this motherfucking plane!

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    Oh, and by the way: how come when I link the the Harold's 'your views' (pg 5, 2.37PM), everyone ignores it, but when Josh links to it (pg 6, 3.42PM), everyone goes crazy. Do I smell or something?

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    Aussie to Kiwi "So why are you guys so interested in Anzac Day anyway?"
    Kiwi response "Well ... um ... what do you think the N Z in Anzac stands for?"

    Oh, yeah. It's all about them, eh?

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    Do I smell or something?

    Um, Rich? We need to talk...

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Doctor (and very Daily Show-esque "chief medical contributor") answers inevitable Fox News host question about whether or not to immediately close the border with Mexico.

    And he's not half bad.

    They should have doctors on Fox News more often.

    NB: Clip also contains perversely gratifying mention of New Zealand.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22825 posts Report Reply

  • nzMM,

    A good article on the swine flu:

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17026-swine-flu-what-you-need-to-know.html

    I'll cut and paste some:

    "The bad 1918 pandemic was an H1N1 virus, and there is evidence that people exposed to earlier human H1 flu had some immunity to it. The 1918 virus was different from this one, however, because its H surface protein was from birds."

    Some ways to go before we all get too concerned, me thinks.

    Auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 15 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I've had enough of this motherfucking flu on this motherfucking plane!

    Facebook friends should not be stealing jokes. Just sayin'.

    Oh, and by the way: how come when I link the the Harold's 'your views' (pg 5, 2.37PM), everyone ignores it, but when Josh links to it (pg 6, 3.42PM), everyone goes crazy. Do I smell or something?

    That's odd. I hear a voice, but I can't see anybody.

    (Sorry, when somebody links the DPF cesspool or Yourviews, I'm on strict doctor's orders not to click thereon. Nothing personal.)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • LegBreak,

    NB: Clip also contains perversely gratifying mention of New Zealand

    Shouldn’t someone be quickly putting a whole lot of portable ferns around the front gates of Rangitoto College?

    Come on people; there are easy Tourist Dollars to be made here.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1162 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    No, don't be daft! Lets just verbatim quote the UTTERLY UNINFORMED OPINION OF SOME RANDOM MOUTH WHO HAPPENED TO BE ON THE PLANE! WHAT A FUCKING GREAT IDEA! HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!

    Where's Luke? I'd like to apologise.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22825 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole,

    To all those who're yawning and saying "Here's another SARS", I'd like to point to this article. It took H5N1 a couple of years to break three-figure mortality numbers in any country. Mexico's Minister of Health is now stating 103 deaths, and that's in a matter of weeks. This is not another SARS, though whether it achieves global pandemic status is a different matter.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    Well, I had tended to agree that the media coverage hadn't been completely over the top, but then I made the mistake of turning on TV3 News. "The spread of Swine Flu symptoms"? By which you mean "Random people around the country with a bit of a cough"? Sheesh, this swine has jumped the shark.

    Facebook friends should not be stealing jokes. Just sayin'.

    Sorry Giovanni, hadn't seen your fb comment until now. It was the combination of swearing and planes in Rich's comments that trigger mine.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Sorry Giovanni, hadn't seen your fb comment until now. It was the combination of swearing and planes in Rich's comments that trigger mine.

    No worries, I've been passing as mine your much better joke about marinating the immune system in alcohol as a precaution.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    Capitalism/Mactional/The Business Roundtable/EMA/etc have a lot to answer for over this particular behavioural pattern where the 'pillock' with the nasty flu struggles into work.

    Yes, comrade, because nobody is ever ill in our planned Socilaist utopia. Now get back to work in your factory before I call the commissars!

    LOL errr, yes well - I didn't plan for it to come out like that... LOL

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 659 posts Report Reply

  • bob wilson,

    Hey, found this site that has info on symptoms and treatments...

    [CYNICAL SPAM LINK DELETED -- RB]

    looks quite informative...

    NZ • Since Apr 2009 • 1 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart,

    It took H5N1 a couple of years to break three-figure mortality numbers in any country.

    You mean SARS here, right?

    And I agree about the numbers, either way. This might not be 1918 all over again, but I wouldn't like to be in Mexico City right now.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    No worries, I've been passing as mine your much better joke about marinating the immune system in alcohol as a precaution.

    Geezus, g. Look what you gone and done. How's he supposed to make money out of that now?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    Hey Bob, I'm a bit confused: by "found this site" do you mean "built this site" or "was paid to promote it"? And by "informative" do you mean "exploitative"?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Tom, I think Bob's saying he's found this sight and it might add something to this thread. He's contributing something.

    Mabe somebody has neglected to use the sarcasm indicator :)

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • Jan Farr,

    Hey Bob, I'm a bit confused: by "found this site" do you mean "built this site" or "was paid to promote it"? And by "informative" do you mean "exploitative"?

    Hey Tom! That's quite confrontational. Someone else pointed to the same site on page 6. Where were you then? Where was Bob for that matter? And I think we decided it was someone called Bruce.

    Carterton • Since Apr 2008 • 395 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    And I think we decided it was someone called Bruce.

    Nah, I'm with Tom. First time caller, dodgy site... Smells fishy.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Tom, I think Bob's saying he's found this sight and it might add something to this thread. He's contributing something.

    I'm not so sure. That site looks a lot like something somebody cooked up to game Google ad revenue.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22825 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    I'm not so sure. That site looks a lot like something somebody cooked up to game Google ad revenue.

    That was my thought, and when 3410 first posted the link with the question "Who are these people?", I think that 3410 was making the same implication. The site has no information about professional or institutional credentials, and if someone "just happened to stumble across it" there wouldn't seem to be any reason to think it any more informative than known credible sites.

    It wouldn't be the first time that someone has turned swine into spam.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    It is the same people - BB Internet
    Sorry, Jan, Tom was right

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

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