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  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    The system was shaken, but nothing was broken.

    And the fresh Labour MP who appeared to best exemplify the Semmens no-truck-with-you-elitist-tossers prescription - the one who needed a fire engine to transport his copious no-pooftahs-please man-tackle - is the one who actually got down and jiggy with the Dirty Politics scumbags.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Ah, whatever you say bro, just don't hit me.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2217 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison,

    It’s just 30,000 more voters for the left wing, (What a horrible term). For the real G>O>P to win .A big tent of politics, of conservative and liberal social views and conservative and liberal economic voices = “The Lefties”

    Rodney Hide said this year on Radio of the National Party, “They only exist to keep Labour out”.

    What a party. They show no conservative intellectual rigour, they are the party created to stop Labour. The ideas of fresh government are being held back in the interests of wealth protection. Muldoon without a scar.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Ben Austin,

    Because National is the party formed out of the Reform/Liberal (United) parties? Sure, that makes historical sense. Although trying to identify which parts of which party remained/remain in the final product 70-80 years on is a bit of a hassle.

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 1027 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    From a Whaleoil post to Claire Trevitt publishing it in the Herald took about 4-5 hours.

    Arrggh. We’ve been here before and it’s a non-story – unless, of course, we’re going to start scrutinising the travel of government ministers (and their entourages) to National Party fundraisers. Which we’re not.

    This is actually quite depressing.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22839 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    We’ve been here before

    And the unaccountable passive phrasing is deeply familiar. Person X is "defending themself", without the writer acknowledging the accusation's source. When did they stop beating their wife?

    Clearly #dirtypolitics has made no impact on the shitty conduct of our political 'journalists', their editors and publishers. What's it going to take when they refuse to be ethical of their own accord?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19729 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Ben Austin,

    Well, if they had won in 2005 they would be pretty much the same faces under Don Brash including Finance Minster Jay Kay and they would have loved it.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Russell Brown,

    You need big backers to be political according to the press..
    Labour , how dare you not be funded by millionaires.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Arrggh. We’ve been here before and it’s a non-story – unless, of course, we’re going to start scrutinising the travel of government ministers (and their entourages) to National Party fundraisers. Which we’re not.

    This is actually quite depressing.

    Press. Fucking. Council.

    On that note, Frank Macskasy's complaint in August regarding the Donghua Liu affair wasn't upheld. On the bottom it says, "John Roughan took no part in the consideration of this complaint.". Probably conflict of interest abstention.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5434 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Jack Harrison,

    et tu, Ioannes? ...or just utu?

    Labour , how dare you not be funded by millionaires.

    Friends, Voters, countrymen, lend me your million ears.
    I come to bury Labour, not to praise them.
    The evil that men do lives after them;
    The good is oft interred with their bones.
    So let it be with Labour.

    (Though I'm guessing John 'Legacy' Key
    will be personally hoping for an inverse ending
    in the reputational burial stakes...)

    ps - I was gonna go with the 'A2 Brutus' line
    but sensitive types might have thought I was
    calling Key a big sheet...
    (in Australian obviously!)
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7948 posts Report Reply

  • mpledger,

    The Press Council website seems to be down so you can't get to the link Deep Red posted. However, the Frank Macskasy case made it in to google's cache and the link is here
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:klG2eH5OtUYJ:www.presscouncil.org.nz/display_ruling.php%3Fcase_number%3D2391+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz&client=firefox-a

    Since Oct 2012 • 97 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    a big sheet

    a puffed-up sheet

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19729 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    wasn’t upheld.

    yes, let's invite those who are happy to behave neither ethically nor professionally to spank themselves. What's that wet bus ticket sound fapping away in the distance?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19729 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    My concern that the Campaign is compromised by Lusk's involvement is part of the reason I have urged you to consider standing for Mayor

    Translation:
    Because whilst you may have destroyed any remnants of a career in central government, NZers have shown many times that they are prepared to elect just about any nut in the bag as a mayor.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    The Intercept has now started international fundraising for Nicky's legal costs. International story now.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3218 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to mark taslov,

    The work of GBSA is never complete. It’s a twisted cycle.

    Graham is not a member of Prinz and is not subject to its code of ethics.

    Surprise, surprise.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2934 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    oh, nice.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    The Intercept has now started international fundraising for Nicky’s legal costs. International story now.

    Which local media have finally gotten round to reporting.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5434 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart, in reply to mark taslov,

    Bet he's still unavailable to media.
    There's so much spinning going on I'm starting to routinely assume the opposite of what is said in certain circles.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Angela Hart,

    There’s so much spinning going on I’m starting….

    Starting? Bit slow? ;) What Taslov just linked to, Team talk, Team Key, all much of the same, “jobs for the boys” network is alive and well. Amy Adams is all over Team key and Dirty politics. She is the dark horse who rears it’s ugly head inside Team Key, just enough to go unnoticed but always there. Of course they only employ one of their own. Team talk is a company that will get cream jobs from Team Key. Keeping it in house keeps the ongoing manipulation of information. They are just a bunch of nodding John Keys smiling and waving on the dashboard. All looking to better themselves only.

    Team Talk
    Team Key
    Team bunch of liars
    Team bunch of thieves

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    They are just a bunch of nodding John Keys smiling and waving on the dashboard.

    Nice imagery, Sofie. Absolutely nothing has changed -- apart from accountability being subbed out to a private company and away from public scrutiny. Moving right along, folks.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1436 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Slow and reluctant. Once upon a time everyone knew most politicians lied about election promises but there remained an expectation, a trust that the system of government was itself reasonably honest. Now there is less lying about policy at election time- successful parties simply spring unpopular policy on us once in power, sometimes blaming convenient allies, but they avoid the burden of unwonted policy at election time, and they are better at implementing promised change. However, this political change is now paired with practices which make a mockery of democracy in the daily activity of government: the abuse of the OIA, underfunding of the Ombudsman and HDC, the selectivity of release of research information and report material, the failure to accept responsibility when incorrect or inappropriate action is exposed, the expectation that parliamentary decisions will be routinely made under urgency, and with limited information available to ordinary MPs, the pressure public servants are under if they wish to retain their chosen livelihoods, the removal of people's rights to local representation through Councils and other local bodies, and ownership of the MSM.
    Hollow men has become hollow country, the face the UN sees is a mask which those who live here are becoming ever more uncomfortably aware of. The behemoth beneath grows stronger and it believes it knows best.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Angela Hart,

    The behemoth beneath grows stronger and it believes it knows best.

    It does and it's amongst us every day in every way. We have entire Electorates that are in on the fudge at the request of Team key, and leaders of parties other than Team key, (Dunne Act) that condone the manipulation out in the open. This is the United Future Dunne plays. We are now paying Seymour a higher salary because Team Key wanted a patsy to fob off their undesirable policies on, so they created a new position earning him more tax money. People like John, "I was never part of a plot," Palino,( yeah right) who nearly made it to running the largest city in NZ with Slater in behind. Many of us aren't happy with this Convention centre , now we are gifting the Sky City TVNZ land that will house a Hotel . How come there is no mention that Sky City gets new pokies, a new Hotel and gifted land and we dont seem to be getting the Convention Centre now. How completey fucked did John Key screw us there. He has private dinners or ones that cost $5000 then hey presto! some company gets a deal. We, the tax payer gets screwed . We lose lose lose and he trades trades trades, money money money. It's not his fucking money , it's ours and he knows it.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    and with a lack lustre opposition he is on a cake walk.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1224 posts Report Reply

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