Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: Part of nearly all our lives

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  • Paul Williams,

    i've a sneaking suspicion that educational levels and gender are well skewed over at kiwiblog, and *slightly* more even here.

    I suspect there's a much higher incidence of rabies at kiwiblog.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Lyndon Hood,

    Summary stats for Kiwiblog/PA/Scoop are available:
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/about/advertising.html (also see the ratecard linked therefrom)

    Doesn't show commenters, of course.

    So y'all want to buy some ads?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1115 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    Readership demographics are incredibly interesting things that are incredibly hard to get a hold of.

    We managed to get a sample of Dropkicks readers and were surprised to find that a large number of them were women. And that we had a large number of non-New Zealand readers too.

    I also agree with Che about the Danah Boyd theory.

    "look! bikini picture! whoaaaaar"

    There were bikini pictures?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    it's nice with big writing and a seal kind of thing on it .

    so you did some kind of marine biology degree then?

    There were bikini pictures?

    </hadyn outs himself as a non-kiwiblog reader> that and/or pictures of blonde women at conferences. none of which i'm impartial to </het>

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    Summary stats for Kiwiblog/PA/Scoop are available:

    Where did they get that info from?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    so you did some kind of marine biology degree then?

    I see what you did there

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    @lyndon. interesting, as i thought, more women here at system and *marginally* more professional.

    i'd bet money the ethnicity of readership would be almost exactly the same though.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Apropos of Che's sig, which I only just noticed:

    The posh end of Cuba St

    It doesn't have one. It starts in a retail ghetto and ends in a residential one (I know coz I live there). That apartment block by the mower shop with the exhibitionist swimming pool is as posh as it gets, really.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    It doesn't have one.

    civic chambers FTW.

    we've got the mayor over the road, along with the cultural hub of the MFC.

    that pub down the road lowers the tone a little though, what.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    __evidence (that I don't have a link for, or even the document) suggests that they like to use Bebo.__

    you could put that down to "chain migration" onto an application. much like danah boyd's theory on hi/lo educational splits between facebook/myspace.

    Yes. She also noted that the Facebook migration -- largely by white, middle-class kids -- had the effect of underlining MySpace as the more African-American networking space.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    __Summary stats for Kiwiblog/PA/Scoop are available:__

    Where did they get that info from?

    From the Nielsen demographic panel, which is into the thousands now, I think.

    Y'all are high-earning, highly-educated influencers who use the internet heaps.

    Our male-female balance is 55-45, which is actually pretty good for a blog site.

    Kiwiblog, as you might expect, is 2-1 male, and Scoop, surprisingly, has slightly more female than male readers.

    And yes, we're below the all-sites average for Maori readers.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    underlining MySpace as the more African-American networking space.

    and kids with bands.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Apropos of Che's sig, which I only just noticed:

    The posh end of Cuba St

    It doesn't have one.

    So, just how many people could I persuade to pop into the Manners St Arty Bees Books and 'say hi to Matt for me', should I seriously want to make his life more 'interesting'?

    Or as an exercise in getting RL and web communities to cross-pollinate or something...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    and kids with bands.

    not all of them are kids. i've seen some sad old fckers who haven't given up the dream advertising on there as well.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    i've seen some sad old fckers who haven't given up the dream advertising on there as well.

    heh, have you (or any of the Wellingtonians [29%] who visit here) seen the guys trying to sell CDs of their band on the streets?

    They are walking around with a CD Walkman, a portable EFTPOS machine, and a pile of CDs trying to get people to have a listen and then buy a copy.

    I feel like telling them to try a different marketing model.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    the guys trying to sell CDs of their band on the streets?

    first few songs actually aren't so bad. the rest? not so much.

    second chef is notoriously soft-hearted.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    civic chambers FTW.

    My first job was on the 4th floor of Civic chambers (the SIS were on floor 2, but don't tell anyone).

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Do you know, I'd never thought of the part of Cuba St below Manners Mall as actually being Cuba St, but it is, of course. Not far from my unspecified work.

    There was a guy on Cuba Mall playing Dylan songs a moment ago. Not half bad - he had the treacle and rusty nails bit off to a T. Also, he was playing "Hard Rain" with the correct chords rather than "Blowing in the Wind" using only E's.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    So, just how many people could I persuade to pop into the Manners St Arty Bees Books and 'say hi to Matt for me', should I seriously want to make his life more 'interesting'?

    Sadist.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    Do you know, I'd never thought of the part of Cuba St below Manners Mall as actually being Cuba St, but it is, of course.

    Cuba St used to continue down to meet Jervois Quay at about Harris St, until the Michael Fowler Centre got plonked on top of it. Not that I don't like the Fowl-house on its own terms, but it didn't exactly take urban design considerations very seriously (it relates poorly to the end of the street, to the Town Hall, but of course the eponymous mayor intended the old Town Hall to be bowled when the new one was finished).

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    Sadist

    But only in a non-squicky, text-only consensual way.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Sadist

    But only in a non-squicky, text-only consensual way.

    Yeah. Let's say that.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart,

    Not that I don't like the Fowl-house on its own terms, but it didn't exactly take urban design considerations very seriously (it relates poorly to the end of the street, to the Town Hall, but of course the eponymous mayor intended the old Town Hall to be bowled when the new one was finished).

    One of the biggest mind-fucks of my first year at uni was rocking on up to the Christchurch Town Hall for the welcome-to-Canterbury ceremony whatsit and being suddenly very confused as to what city I was in.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Eade,

    "so you did some kind of marine biology degree then?"

    It could well of been.

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Andrew,

    Wonder if the blog stats asked how many blogs per person - I know my wifey is a prolific blogger with about a half-dozen on the go at any one time. Open ones, closed ones, and about three different topics. The names and platforms change as she changes focus.
    Whereas I have one very neglected blogspot and a little test dabble on the Google sites (to get in early & save my name for unspecified future use...).

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report Reply

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