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  • Ian Dalziel,

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    I’m thinking this Tintin tinged one
    could be more apt for Key & Co’s NZ:
    The Blue Lotus
    Nothing sticks to this…

    (with apologies to the Jianwei Nationalist State )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Brazil seems to do ok even though their flag breaks all the rules

    and the number of stars on it change

    https://flagspot.net/flags/br_astro.html

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1445 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to David Hood,

    Which is kind of cool, especially as they're actual stars in a proportionate position and magnitude.

    The US added a star for each new state, the EU/Council of Europe does not - it's always been 12.

    I like these Canadian suggestions, especially the Beatles one.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Evan Yates, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Ok. I give up. What is the creature hidden in the stereogram? I can see it has two legs but the rest is unclear. It looks a bit like a Kiwi with beak down to the left, looking for insects, but with a stoat sticking out of its butt (going up to the right).

    ...or is it a mutant kangaroo? ...or a T-Rex?

    Hamiltron, Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Nov 2006 • 197 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Evan Yates,

    ocular, jocular, albinocular…

    …a mutant kangaroo?
    …or a T-Rex?

    dunno!
    can’t get it to stir a jot, meself.

    file name is dino.jpeg
    so I’m going for your latter fancy,
    as it were…

    where do you look to coalesce limbs?
    focus & focal length?
    does the background disappear?

    I feel so excluded already…

    sob...

    My eyes are physically ever so slightly off ‘factory parallax’
    - literally a past ‘head-desk’ interface,
    as it were, again.

    as you were…

    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    velociraptor .... really old kiwi

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2623 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Evan Yates,

    .or is it a mutant kangaroo? ...or a T-Rex?

    It looks more like a Kangaroo to me but it seems to have a horn on its head so not a T Rex but that could be an ear so...
    I am good at these things, I used to do the same thing with the patterns on the backs of the school bus seats, thought it was just me.
    Anyway, as Ian says the file is Dino.jpg so the artist meant it to be a dinosaur but isn't that good at drawing them. ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    pupils at Ngaio School

    That flag would be offensive to the Welsh. Sometimes you just can't win.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    I feel so excluded already…

    Scratch 'n sniffs were a bit like that. Even the sticker that graced the sleeve of Peter Tosh's Legalise It. While it was presumably supposed to smell like herb, the best noses I submitted it to could only detect printer's ink.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    where do you look to coalesce limbs?
    focus & focal length?
    does the background disappear?

    I feel so excluded already…

    I find it easiest to look "through" the image, focusing in a point beyond the 2D surface, a point where similar shapes overlap and create an illusion of depth.
    It is a 2 stage process. First you get the depth illusion then the image gradually emerges. Once you get there it is sometimes hard to not see it without looking away.
    Hope that helps.
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    It can also help if you have a window that is darker beyond it, that you can reflect the image off it (not entirely practical on a desktop screen), because then you can quite literally focus through the picture.

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1445 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to David Hood,

    It can also help if you have a window that is darker beyond it,

    Or a mirror. The picture would be backwards but...
    Once you get the looking through bit its a piece of piss, as they say in Wandsworth. (apparently)
    ;)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Helps to go cross eyed first for me

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • GraemeDykes,

    I like the Red Peak flag because I interpret the white stripe as a long white cloud, which is important for a country named Aoteoroa.

    Auckland • Since May 2012 • 1 posts Report Reply

  • Bevan,

    Red Peak is the business!

    How do we get the flag panel to change their minds?

    Wellington • Since Sep 2013 • 17 posts Report Reply

  • simon g, in reply to Bevan,

    We don't. They were voted in by an electorate of one, and they have done what the voter wanted them to do. Nobody else had a say. The illusion of a say, yes, but that's all it ever was.

    We could get the voter himself to change his mind, it's worth a shot. But I wouldn't get your hopes up.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1333 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Bevan,

    Red Peak is the business!

    How do we get the flag panel to change their minds?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/71768480/support-for-red-peak-flag-on-the-rise

    A spokeswoman for the Flag Panel said that the shortlist was final.

    "The flag consideration panel were appointed to make a decision, and cabinet has approved those four alternative flags for the referendum"

    Who wants to bet there will be a flip flop: the Flag Panel will do a mea culpa (because the PM's pollsters are actually the ones in charge) - and Red Peak will get a look in as a fifth option.

    Face it, Key couldn't give a stuff what the new flag looks like or represents for that matter - he just wants to be able to say that the flag was changed under his "rule".

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Katharine Moody,

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    he just wants

    to keep the proles occupied with trivialities while TPPAing it and selling off the homestead, we are putty.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • simon g, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    There's zero chance of a change to the four options before the first referendum.

    A change afterwards (by Parliament, i.e. on Key's instructions to his caucus) is very unlikely, and will probably depend on the first referendum having a very low turnout, and/or the Hypnoflag winning.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1333 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

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    Just for fun, I’ve done a very CGI take on the matter, and here’s a WIP so far. Shall I get some virtual beauties to wear these, or could that open me up to getting sued?

    I actually asked Graeme Edgeler about this, and he says NZ parody law applies, even if a next-level image is hosted on an overseas server.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Steve Braunias' Secret Diary of the Flags hits the mark with an uncannily accurate portrayal of Maurice Williamson and a powerful ending involving our PM.

    Damn, I love Steve's work.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Just for fun, I’ve done a very CGI take on the matter, and here’s a WIP so far. Shall I get some virtual beauties to wear these, or could that open me up to getting sued?

    I had no problem with mentally inserting St Richie's image into all four. Thanks to your visualisation, hypnokini's the clear winner. It's the only one with symmetry.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Shall I get some virtual beauties to wear these...?

    Just ask yourself, what would Maurice do?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Shall I get some virtual beauties to wear these,

    Refugees? Lyndon Hood's depictions are very poignant, yours could be too.After all John Key finds the flag more important.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    semaphore play…
    I see this thread has made the news in The Guardian…

    ...commented Mikaere Curtis on the left-leaning Public Address blog. “Screw that, I’m voting Hypnoflag followed by Keep The Existing One, I want a proper process not this farce.”

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

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