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Hard News: Media Take: The selling of the campaign

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  • Glenn Jameson,

    The follow up commercial dealt with the flip-flop, was entirely accurate, and even funnier. :D

    Since Sep 2017 • 18 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to Glenn Jameson,

    entirely accurate

    Lies lies and more lies AFATECS
    Did that actually go to air?
    I'd be seeking legal advice

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1658 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Glenn Jameson,

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    It certainly did — it forced Jacinda to take Capital Gains off the table. :)

    Be careful what you wish for, 'cause you might actually get it.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5328 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Kumara Republic,

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    What would you spend your tax cuts on, #1...

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5328 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Kumara Republic,

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    What would you spend your tax cuts on, #2...

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5328 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Kumara Republic,

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    What would you spend your tax cuts on, #3...

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5328 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    BTW Glenn, how's that Eminem case going?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5328 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    OOOooo so Glenn(thanx KR) are you one of the advertising peeps responsible for Nationals campaign? And within the narrow confines in which you operate those campaigns are considered "legal".
    Yeah I put that in scare quotes because while they may not actually break laws they are morally repugnant. Not that you would know how to gauge that because you most likely have a shit moral compass when it comes to what you do for a living.
    A quick rule of thumb if you have to run it by the legal department its a piece of crap.Tell that to the rest of those preening nincompoops wouldya.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1658 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    Certainly GJ thinks misleading the public is funny.
    Trolling for emotional reaction is basically the job description
    — so let’s not do that.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1751 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to linger,

    emotional reaction

    Yes cause god forbid you show anything resembling a feeling, because to the fucked up minds who wheel out this shit that would mean you have lost the argument.
    Dining on the neoliberal diet for decades does jade the senses. But I guess these well-heeled cretins have developed a taste for dishes the rest of us cant stomach.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1658 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to andin,

    OOOooo so Glenn(thanx KR) are you one of the advertising peeps responsible for Nationals campaign?

    Presented without comment:

    The Business Herald understands that a key creative talent for the Nats is Glenn Jameson, a creative director at the freelance advertising bureau The Pond, and who has an impressive CV working in New Zealand, the UK and the US.

    Jameson did not return calls and The Pond office referred Business Herald queries to Joyce.

    Jameson says on the Pond website that he has had stints at Draft FCB, DDB and most recently as creative director at Republik.

    He says in his profile that his talent is to "find truth in bullshit".

    Jameson loves philosophy and appears to be attracted to the Right.

    He is is an admirer of the individualist writer Ayn Rand.

    His loves include his children "and me".

    He advises prospective clients to read Rand's The Virtue of Selfishness " and you'll love Me too".

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5328 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to andin,

    Not that you would know how to gauge that because you most likely have a shit moral compass when it comes to what you do for a living.

    I'm sure you're an accomplished TVC director Glenn, but you give the impression that you've had a few too many and stumbled into the wrong room. It's an easy mistake to make... you hung a left when you should have kept to the right.

    If you're looking for the Young Nats, they're in the Perigo suite down in the basement. That's where you'll feel more comfortable, surrounded by like-minded people for whom morals are optional and ethics take a back seat to self-interest and greed.

    Most libertarians tend to ignore the fact that their hero Ayn (government handouts are "immoral") Rand, actually spent her latter years on a government benefit. Not many people know that.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1326 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Alfie,

    Most libertarians tend to ignore the fact that their hero Ayn (government handouts are "immoral") Rand, actually spent her latter years on a government benefit. Not many people know that.

    Confirmed by Snopes.com.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5328 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    It’s there in Rand’s own (en)title(ment): grabbing what you can for yourself is a “virtue”, and so handouts are apparently “immoral” only for the government to provide, not for you to take. Not hypocritical at all, oh no; merely fundamentally wrong about the relationship between society and individual.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1751 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Wain, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I think only putting Jacinda up on the ads played against Labour - at least it did locally, for me, in my Auckland Central electorate.

    Last time I gritted my teeth and voted for Ardern, as she actually had a shot at unseating that horrible National MP (first and only time I've ever voted for a Labour anything).

    But when it came time to vote this election, I honestly hadn't even heard of the Labour candidate before, figured she had no chance, so voted Green instead.

    Silly me - while it's not exactly Epsom, the Labour candidate (whoever she was) actually got close to the Nat.

    Since Nov 2006 • 154 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Richard Wain,

    Silly me – while it’s not exactly Epsom, the Labour candidate (whoever she was) actually got close to the Nat.

    Helen White. She's very good.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22227 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Oh, nearly forgot:

    This week’s episode.

    And the bonus korero.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22227 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to andin,

    Dining on the neoliberal diet for decades does jade the senses.

    Greentropy?
    Everything must go green!
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7480 posts Report Reply

  • william blake, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Greentropy?

    The first law of thermodynamics; we don't talk about the first law of thermodynamics.

    Since Mar 2010 • 351 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to william blake,

    we don’t talk about the first law of thermodynamics.

    A lot like Governments, thermodynamic systems are generally regarded as being open, closed or isolated.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7480 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Of course Mike Hosking knows best about 'systems'
    (WARNING: Contains Mike Hosking!)

    MMP is like all systems. It works okay on a good day but it's a shambles on a bad one.
    My fear with Winston is we are in for three years of comparative trouble given we've had 18 years of real cohesive settled trouble-free governance.

    It seems he's had his eyes tight shut for at least the last 9 years...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7480 posts Report Reply

  • tussock, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    He means he voted National and is upset they won't be able to do whatever they want for the next three years. He owns like six houses, man, what if there's a CGT? Trouble! That's what.

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    9 possible governments? I count more.

    National - NZF coalition.
    National minority, NZF for C&S.
    Labour - Green - NZF coalition.
    Labour - Green coalition, NZF for C&S.
    Labour - NZF coalition, Green for C&S.

    National - Green coalition.
    National minority, Labour for C&S.
    National minority, Green for C&S.
    Labour minority, Green - NZF for C&S.

    Or, I guess, a few with NZF or Greens abstaining on C&S for National minority. Or, Labour - NZF getting ahead of National for Greens to abstain on C&S.

    Lots of minority government positions possible. Only ones seem impossible are National - Green, and of course National - Labour because it makes people vote for Nazis or something.

    Since Nov 2006 • 587 posts Report Reply

  • Glenn Jameson, in reply to andin,

    Lies lies and more lies AFATECS
    Did that actually go to air?
    I’d be seeking legal advice

    It did. No problemo. Because it's all true. Perhaps you should've looked at Jacinda's policies before you blindly voted for her. :)

    Since Sep 2017 • 18 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to Glenn Jameson,

    Pro-tip: when you end a claim to truth with a smiley (this is the third time in as many posts), don't be surprised if nobody believes you.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1751 posts Report Reply

  • Glenn Jameson, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Cowards troll from anonymity, Kumara Republic.

    Since Sep 2017 • 18 posts Report Reply

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