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Hard News: Interesting Britain!

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  • Tom Semmens, in reply to BenWilson,

    From what I can tell, the Tory vote % has also increased, 5.6% at the moment.

    May and her posh strategists committed the great toff mistake – they assumed the proles were an unvariegated mass of easily led inferiors. They thought the UKIP support in the precariat/working class was inherently right wing and monolithic, May moved immediately to seize the UKIP vote and gloated endlessly about how the Conservatives were now the party of the working class – and the middle class MSM engaged in all sorts of wish fufillment to help the Conservatives to keep thinking that way. The entrails of every minor election was poured over for evidence that Labour’s support amongst the lower sorts was gone.

    Well, it didn’t work out that way. The Brexit/UKIP vote was a massive protest against the radical centre and the neoliberal lockstep of the Tories and “new Labour” not a signal of the emergence of working class English fascism. When Labour offered a real choice, the UKIP vote proved much more nuanced than those southern toffs in Tory HQ ever imagined. The Tory vote went “up” because they hosed up SOME of the UKIP vote – but enough working class and precariat voters understood the Tories were just false friends to keep Labour seats safe, while Labour’s policies appealed far more to the lower middle class than the Tories and they hosed up heaps of those.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2214 posts Report Reply

  • Duane Griffin, in reply to Zach Bagnall,

    We got ours about three weeks ago, I think it was. Hopefully they made it back in time, not that Labour needed an extra couple of votes in Hammersmith.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 21 posts Report Reply

  • Zach Bagnall,

    There's a few things I could have done if I'd known this was likely earlier. Not sure about embassy voting.. does NZ have such a thing in every US state? Anyway, far too late. Hope there's some decent data on it in the aftermath.

    Colorado • Since Nov 2006 • 120 posts Report Reply

  • Zach Bagnall, in reply to Duane Griffin,

    Interesting. A friend also had papers sent to NZ and didn't receive them as of a few days ago.

    Colorado • Since Nov 2006 • 120 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Zach Bagnall,

    Not sure about embassy voting.. does NZ have such a thing in every US state?

    NZ, I don't know, but I'd have thought the British would. You're in Colorado? There's a British Consulate in Denver according to Google.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Zach Bagnall,

    Oh duh, British :) Where do I even live again?

    Colorado • Since Nov 2006 • 120 posts Report Reply

  • Zach Bagnall,

    So hung parliament eh. Tories will now scrounge up some compliant randoms to prop them up?

    Colorado • Since Nov 2006 • 120 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Zach Bagnall,

    Tories will now scrounge up some compliant randoms to prop them up?

    I presume DUP is a shoo in for their support?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    I hope the NZ MSM stop interviewing that new Labour twat Josie Pagani as a voice of the left.

    Her and her ilk are so yesterday that even the rats are turning up their noses at the stink.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2214 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2214 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Zach Bagnall,

    Postal voting doesn't work - they send the papers out by snail mail a week before the election, ensuring that with the possible exception of people in Calais or Dublin, it's utterly impossible to get them back in time.

    I get a member of my family to proxy vote for me.

    British people should be to vote at the embassy like 'merkins can. I think they don't really want the votes of renegade expatriates.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Zach Bagnall,

    DG above got lucky then!

    Colorado • Since Nov 2006 • 120 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    Either way, a lot of tweets about Jeremy Corbyn being the end of his party have aged poorly. That an absolute Tory majority has just been reduced to a hung parliament might just be political caffeine for Little, Turei and Shaw.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5429 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    ...Little, Turei and Shaw.

    Local political worthies offer their $0.02 on Corbyn, c. November 2015. No Little or Turei, though Shaw gives it a surprisingly decent shot. Dunne manages to banish any doubt that he sees things in any other terms than self-serving careerism.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4592 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    No Little or Turei

    Hey my bad - Metiria Turei gives it a go and, unlike some of the heavyweight-ranked punditry, at least avoids setting herself up for posterity to make a prize goose of.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4592 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    (goes to bed at reasonable-ish hour, wake up, turn on radio).

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    (pauses to draw breath before suffocating)

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    (Rinse, repeat. All day)

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    I think they don't really want the votes of renegade expatriates.

    Every single expat was barred from voting in the EU referendum. You know, the one's with the most to lose.....

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    That’s a fascinating read Joe. It’s a small shame about the ‘jump to’; Metiria takes me to Helen Kelly – not a bad place to be but still.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Brown,

    On the whole, quite encouraging really. Young people give a shit and can be bothered to get out and vote; older people also give a shit and... etc

    Auckland • Since Mar 2013 • 137 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

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    The SkyData same-day polling is super-interesting. Conservative voters have a much stronger faith in their party of choice as a good government. But look at that massive approval turnaround over the course of the campaign.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22817 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

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    A national divided by age ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22817 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

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    And finally: Health mattered a shitload more than terrorism or Brexit. And a fair chunk of Labour voters remain wary of Corbyn but voted Labour anyway.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22817 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    Britain is one seriously age-polarised society.

    And that is a very sad and telling present reality - something the ptb (whomever they are at the highest echelons of power) need to think very hard about.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/09/davos-wakes-up-to-the-trump-new-world-order.html

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Brown, in reply to Ken Double,

    So hard to...not be cleverbastardpollthing

    Auckland • Since Mar 2013 • 137 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Local political worthies offer their $0.02 on Corbyn, c. November 2015. No Little or Turei, though Shaw gives it a surprisingly decent shot. Dunne manages to banish any doubt that he sees things in any other terms than self-serving careerism.

    Impressive approach from Jacinda Ardern - she's got politics in her blood.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

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