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  • Peter Darlington,

    Poor old Bob, all my sympathies to his family, that's a terrible thing to happen.

    Nelson • Since Nov 2006 • 949 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    Oh no, Bob! My fellow Wire maniac!

    Well, that fucking sucks. I'm so sorry.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    We'll miss Bob too

    Hear, hear. So sad.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    Always sad when a voice disappears. My sympathies to Bob's family.

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • Tim Michie,

    Sorries from me too for Bob's passing. And glad he was here...

    Auckward • Since Nov 2006 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Don't go looking for me at the public demonstration. There was a little booking whoopsie and I now won't be landing in Welly until 12.30. Oh well. At least I can get some work done while I wait ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Well, that fucking sucks. I'm so sorry.

    Amen, he'll be missed. Our thoughts and love to his family.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Deborah,

    My sympathies to Bob's family, and friends, among whom I count us.

    Time for that Births, Deaths, Civil Unions and Other Events of Interest column, Russell? T'would be nice to have a place to gather to celebrate and mourn. I realise that things are a busy at present... with s92A and all that, but maybe soon?

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report Reply

  • Zippy Gonzales,

    The Three Strikes Bill reminds me of the Degrees of Murder Bill, which Act supported, back in the '90s. Although initially supportive, I ended up agreeing with the reasons for the DoM to be dumped. Similar lessons of over-proscription to be learned here.

    In fairness to the disastrous Californian 3 Strikes regime, at least it removed the moral hazard in picking and choosing the offences which would apply. For example, why are no white collar crimes included in the Bill? Is less societal harm caused by a repeat fraudster who wrecks the lives (and savings) of thousands, than by an aggravated assaulter?

    There's also the threat of future amendment. There is nothing stopping a future government from loosening the criteria for Three Strikes to kick in. Pardon the thin wedge cliche, but it's true.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 186 posts Report Reply

  • Zippy Gonzales,

    Whoops. Wrong thread. Stupid tabbed windows...

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 186 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    A sad loss. Many of us are wearing black already, so perhaps the meaning of our black squares could be extended to include mourning.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    RIP Bob :-(

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg,

    Bob? No! I'm absolutely shaken. I loved his posts and, especially his pointers towards books and much else.

    I didn't ever have the privilege to meet the man but thought very highly of him as a result of our paths crossing at PA. My thoughts, too, go out to his family.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    Yeah, not much for me to say other than I enjoyed my interactions with Bob on here, and wish his loved ones all the best.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report Reply

  • Leopold,

    Well, that was a quiet, bourgeois little protest. Should be glad that you were sharing stage with the Tamils (tho' they didn't seem to have much to shout about, as well...)
    Why o why are there no more of the big noisy demos (anti-SIS, Vietnam, FOL, hell, even the abortion ones) of the past?

    Since Jan 2007 • 153 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    Sad to hear about Bob Munro. My condolences to his family.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Why o why are there no more of the big noisy demos (anti-SIS, Vietnam, FOL, hell, even the abortion ones) of the past?

    It's not as cool as it used to be? I'm not surprised that a protest on amendments to copyright law would be bourgeois :-). I'm thinking I'd get some pretty blank stares if I went around canvassing my working class district looking for people who wanted to take time off work for the chance to have a bit of a march and a yell about this. I doubt they'd yell about it at any time. More likely, like everyone I know, they just won't care a stuff about copyright law.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    Well, that was a quiet, bourgeois little protest.

    Was very polite, wasn't it. Decent enough turn out, though.

    That rascal, Peter Dunne, eh... using the occasion to put the boot into the now defunct ERA. Still, good to get support from him.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Still, good to get support from him.

    Dunno about that. Some support is actually better not to have, when the cost of it is giving people like Dunne a platform.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    Sorry to hear about Bob. His contributions stood out to me.

    Well, that was a quiet, bourgeois little protest. Should be glad that you were sharing stage with the Tamils (tho' they didn't seem to have much to shout about, as well...)
    Why o why are there no more of the big noisy demos (anti-SIS, Vietnam, FOL, hell, even the abortion ones) of the past?

    I think it was all the more effective for being composed of people who are usually slow to take collective or public action, and clearly unused to it.

    In my (perhaps skewed) experience, ICT has disproportionately many cynical individualists who don't care for or believe in a common good, as anyone who's tried to unionise programmers knows. If you can get them to rally around a cause then something big is afoot.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • Evan Yates,

    Destiny Church got a few thousand at their "Enough is Enough" anti-civil-union march. They were (rightly) ignored by the pollies.

    The news article estimates that 120 people turned up to this protest. Do you think the MPs are worried that the vox populi is against s92a to the point where they need to change the course of their legislation?

    No I didn't get off my fat bum and turn up either... supporting the cause from afar is about the best I can do. Sorry.

    Hamiltron, Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Nov 2006 • 197 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    This was organised at relatively short notice. More importantly than the number who turned up today is the number of emails and the number of signatories on the petitions. I think it was Russell who said that he heard that MPs were surprised at the number of emails they received on this issue.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    ...still, the chance of making a change to the legislative plans is probably low. Here's hoping....

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report Reply

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