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  • mark taslov,

    <uote>We were lucky enough to get Peter Jenner on Media7 last year. He's a major proponent of what he calls the "music access charge".</quote>

    so the costs are covered and the holders are getting paid. Sound shit.

    The music industry should really either:
    1. suck it up, cut their costs and accept that nobody is going to get rich from recorded music any more
    2. find alternative revenue sources that don't require a governmental big stick to work

    Doesn't look like they're going to be sucking anything up until they've forcefed NZ a full yardy of the shit. in fact it fully looks like they have our government by the strones. I'd like investigations into what kind of corruption is going down to bring about this kind of situation where the government is implementing laws at the behest of a handful of large corporations who've been dicking around our citizens for decades with their format shifts and false promises.

    and also with specific reference to local artists. If you're Coldplay or whoever then even a much reduced income from CDs is still a lot of money.

    Not if daddy paid close to a million sterling to get you that cushy deal with parlaphone.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    sorry, Parlophone ₤

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    mark, I would hesitate to call "corruption" too quickly. You underestimate, I think, the power of legitimate lobbying. As I've said elsewhere, the big companies and industry groups often have people whose only job is to deal with government at all levels. They spend quite a lot of money making sure their message gets across, they turn up to every meeting and bunfight, they get to know the officials and the elected representatives and they flatter them, possibly some wining and dining, ensure that they're called upon to preside at industry events and general warm, happy, fuzzy stuff. It's no surprise that government turns to these people when they want to know something about the industry and get captured, mentally, by the industry mindset.

    Governments have always listened to the voices they hear most often.

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    But speaking of rampant stupidity, here's the latest "health measure" being adopted in America

    It’s hard to believe, but true: under a law Congress passed last year aimed at regulating hazards in children’s products, the federal government has now advised that children’s books published before 1985 should not be considered safe and may in many cases be unlawful to sell or distribute. Merchants, thrift stores, and booksellers may be at risk if they sell older volumes, or even give them away, without first subjecting them to testing—at prohibitive expense. Many used-book sellers, consignment stores, Goodwill outlets, and the like have accordingly begun to refuse new donations of pre-1985 volumes, yank existing ones off their shelves, and in some cases discard them en masse.

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    So. Simon. You mean to say that you don't download Vinyl?

    But if it's on vinyl, well...

    well, you and I do still buy it, and it's my format of choice

    That cuts to one of my earlier posts (on that other thread) Added value. Even if you download a movie then, at this point in time, it is nowhere near to going to the movies. My point is that, some will contend, MP3s are inferior to vinyl.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    mark, I would hesitate to call "corruption" too quickly. You underestimate, I think, the power of legitimate lobbying. As I've said elsewhere, the big companies and industry groups often have people whose only job is to deal with government at all levels. They spend quite a lot of money making sure their message gets across, they turn up to every meeting and bunfight, they get to know the officials and the elected representatives and they flatter them, possibly some wining and dining, ensure that they're called upon to preside at industry events and general warm, happy, fuzzy stuff. It's no surprise that government turns to these people when they want to know something about the industry and get captured, mentally, by the industry mindset.

    With complete respect to you Mark, I'll stick with total and utter corruption there, obviously I have no evidence or need to suggest it is of a financial nature. But the instance you just outlined is nothing less than the perfect blueprint for the corruption of democracy by the few. Financial or not.

    It's no surprise that government turns to these people when they want to know something about the industry and get captured, mentally, by the industry mindset.

    word has it that a certain Miss W.H.T democracy has certainly been surprised by this.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg,

    My point is that, some will contend, MP3s are inferior to vinyl

    There's naught contend about it.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3283 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    It would be different if truly innocent people are included, as was (sort of) the case with people who owned iPods before the format shifting laws,

    I'd say that is alot of us.No intention to be a bad ass, all the consideration for artists, Just don't care about the hoopla, without wanting to deprive.If 25 payments are involved in listening, why not put it on my rates bill. I'll happily pay and if you are a household that doesn't use it, get your rebate.It's rubbish collection!

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    I'm thinking more along the lines of corruption of vital thought processes, which induce elected representatives to introduce legislation, which allows recidivist downloaders to get away scott free with the warez. To suggest that the labels or copyright holders benefit from this is rather an oversestimation.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    MP3s are inferior to vinyl.

    mp3s are inferior to wax recordings. it's just not the product.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    I can't let you do that Dave. (Hal9000) Just a thought. :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    I think in answer to the moot at the foo debate, it's not so much a question of 'is NZ fucked?' as, in what position is NZ being fucked, and are you enjoying it?

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    s'right Sofie, bring on the sci-fi...

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    My mind is going now...I can feel it.I can sing you a song if you like.
    DAI..SY DAI...SY give me your answer...do....

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    sorry, the link from the link

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    sorry, the link from the link

    So,what's with the ol' guy.Is he tripping or jus eatin'? Reminds me of my favourite Uncle :))

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    DAI..SY DAI...SY give me your answer...do....

    Yeah but no but hey but. What's with the baby in the bubble and does it have a Baboon heart?
    And now how much do I owe Kubrick & Simon ?

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Oh and, maybe Darwin.
    Or, God forbid, the MPPA?

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    "the music producing computer has a rather stylized left hand"

    the dates tally, so I'd say tripping, the last of the labrats

    Between the years 1947 and 1963, CIA and Army scientists examined, tested, and in some cases refined every drug...

    http://mindmined.com/public_library/nonfiction/jessica_locke_del_greco_LSD_research.html

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    God forbid,

    Wha' Is that 92a?

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Oh and, maybe Darwin.
    Or, God forbid, the MPPA?

    Interesting thing is reading some confuscious today, and how old Jesus and the christian faith has 'one hell' of a law suit looming if China ever decides to take copyright seriously.

    Don't complain about the snow on your neighbor's roof when your own doorstep is unclean.

    Love thy neighbor as thyself: Do not to others what thou wouldn't not wish be done to thyself: Forgive injuries. Forgive thy enemy, be reconciled to him, give him assistance, invoke God in his behalf.

    BC 551-479, Chinese Ethical Teacher, Philosopher

    is western spitirual culture just another mp3?

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    BC 551-479, Chinese Ethical Teacher, Philosopher

    is western spitirual culture just another mp3?

    Double plus good.Colloquial English will be fine thank you or am I from some forbidden planet?

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    i'm sure the Greeks would have something to say on the topic...

    but for Jesus, that was his one thing, his whole repetoire.. now he's just like FYC if 'she drive's me crazy' had been a cover. Damn I believed in that guy. Solid evidence he wouldn't have supported S92a

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Sorry Sofie. I blame the waterproof keyboard and the bhang. In combination, lethal sentences.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

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