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Hard News: Friday Music: The fractions of a cent

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  • TracyMac,

    Maybe I'll check out Deezer - at least they pay relatively decently. What none of these figures make clear is what exactly is a "stream" - is it an entire track or, say, at least 30% of one?

    As for Spotify, it's also not clear whether they pay differently per stream depending on whether it was played by a paid subscriber or not. I was under the impression there were different rates at one stage, although the murkiness around it made me stop paying (hate the ads, though - what is it about Aussie advertising and their use of people with the most strident Strine accents ever? The only people I personally know who talk like that are bogan Queenslanders (I use "bogan" with due affection, btw)).

    As for publishing fees, I really don't get any justification why it'd be a significantly different percentage to radio play, given the "discount" applied to streaming, full stop.

    Canberra, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 686 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Shute,

    30 seconds counts as a stream. That's supposedly why new pop acts frontload their songs with hooks and musical ideas - they just don't want you to click away until the first 30secs is up.

    Since Nov 2016 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    Largely cut off from the North Island as we are again, chchch punters have the Electric Avenue festival in Chch's Hagley Park this Saturday (24th) to buoy up their spirits - The D4, Primal Scream, Dizzee Rsacal, Katchafire and many acts I've never heard of...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7630 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

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    Largely cut off from the North Island as we are again,..

    Lyttelton-Wellington ferries? The Wahine grounding was a freak accident, which is unlikely to happen again. It'd be an ideal opportunity to possibly catch a bit of retro synth-pop on the way. Or mabe Jazz.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3980 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to steven crawford,

    ...a bit of retro synth-pop...

    That looks like the Kraftwerk pic that NME ran at the time of their late 70s London show, with the caption "This is what our fathers died to save us from".

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4547 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/101726449/sickness-forces-primal-scream-to-cancel-its-sellout-gig
    Doesn't really say if they are coming to Chchch still or not...
    I suspect not

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7630 posts Report Reply

  • Moz, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Chchch

    Christchurchchurch? Or Christchristchurch? The inquisitive idiot trapped inside my head needs to know.

    Sydney, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 1073 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    ch -rist- ch-ur- ch

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7630 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to TracyMac,

    As for publishing fees, I really don’t get any justification why it’d be a significantly different percentage to radio play, given the “discount” applied to streaming, full stop.

    As I understand it, the Big Three did their own negotiations with Spotify and came out with a split that heavily favours record labels and doesn't do much for publishers – ie, the inverse of the royalty system on US radio.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22403 posts Report Reply

  • Jonathan Ganley, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

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    Doesn’t really say if Primal Scream are coming to Chchch still or not . . . I suspect not

    I think Primal Scream did make it to ChChCh, and they were definitely at the Powerstation in Auckland last Sunday night, where the continuing lack of bass player left a big gap in the sound. Pictured: Bobby Gillespie.

    Since Dec 2006 • 233 posts Report Reply

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