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Hard News: Friday Music: Impermanence

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  • Lilith __,

    Not relevant to anything really, but more people should see this, I think it's pretty spesh! Made up of 15,000 still images, and some neat tunes.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    Psy is saying that him, despite being an older guy, is the party master, essentially

    Thanks, I think that video made my day. :-)

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

  • thegirlstefan,

    Mike H- if you're reading this, or Russell maybe you can pass it on- the Alexander Turnbull does audio recording archiving, and in the last couple of years undertook a major programme of work around this. They have lots of tools and techniques and equipment to retrieve things from now obsolete formats. The person to contact at the ATL is Bronwyn Officer, she may be able to help out.

    Aotearoa • Since Oct 2011 • 42 posts Report Reply

  • StepDoh,

    Big ups to the Turnbull.

    When I was working at the National Library in the discussion over the NDHA (archiving all of .nz) and how they would store the masses of data that would be collected for ever. Think CDs, even ‘archive quality’ were 10 years max, DVDs were a bit more robust apparently.

    I had left before they had settled on a suitable medium, think it was just a big pile of hard drives. Must ask someone one day :)

    Remember when people used to back up to Zip disks. Clunk, clunk, *shudder*

    Much to my shame when setting up the network services on my blu-ray player last night, the first thing I searched on youtube was 'gangam style' and had a bop.

    #lovethetron • Since Jan 2008 • 26 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    Oppa! liking the selection this week. And getting around to connecting the 'puter to the stereo (and it aint a store bought one either) now I have a home, even if it may be temporary

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1890 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to StepDoh,

    Remember when people used to back up to Zip disks. Clunk, clunk, *shudder*

    The worst $345 I ever spent in my life. In 1997.

    Any brands in particular that are infamous for CD rot?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5429 posts Report Reply

  • StepDoh,

    No idea, despite working working at the NL still have some pics on ASDA CDRs :) Think some CD-Rs were basically a layer of tinfoil glued to a plastic disc, so there were a lot of things that could go wrong.

    #lovethetron • Since Jan 2008 • 26 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Any brands in particular that are infamous for CD rot?

    The cheap ones of any brand, I gather -- because they're the ones that used unstable vegetable dyes.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22830 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Remember when people used to back up to Zip disks. Clunk, clunk, *shudder*

    The worst $345 I ever spent in my life. In 1997.

    With that generation of iMacs, there was no other choice!

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    Yeah, I want to party with Psy - my guess is that it translates as "Mr Big Shot"

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Great video...but such unflattering trousers! As for that bilious yellow suit!

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2557 posts Report Reply

  • LIISA,

    I've recently observed a CD/ CD-R digitization project which has experienced this issue. Once the 0s and 1s are damaged to the point of there being digital noise over the audio (that is where you are even able to retrieve the audio) there's not much to be done.
    CD-Rs with sticky labels attached are likely to have 'rotted' sooner/worse than those without (~50% fail rate 2000-2005), those with (CD-R/ DVD) marker pen labeling next worst.
    Storage conditions may also may play a role (upright vs flat + temperature).
    Bottom line: Rip them to Hard Drive ASAP!
    Lest chaos triumphs once again.

    Wellie • Since May 2008 • 46 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie,

    Psy, apparently, is notoriously hard-partying.

    Something interesting about why Psy was the break out hit, but say, this not so much.

    Whole idea of breaking into the US market pretty fascinating.

    Also the extent to which K Pop is this pulsating artificial fakery, Phil Oakley and Gary Numan and all that.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    My current favourite is Fiona Apple's "The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than the Driver of the Screw and Whipping Cords Will Serve You More Than Ropes Will Ever Do". [pause for breath!]. It is kind of wonderful.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2557 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Keir Leslie,

    Something interesting about why Psy was the break out hit, but say, this not so much.

    It takes itself a tad too seriously?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22830 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie, in reply to Russell Brown,

    It takes itself a tad too seriously?

    Hahaha yeah, Big Bang's self-absorbed, imperialistic singles were never going to be the easiest sell to people not already bound up in it.

    But yeah, like, does K-Pop have to be self-mocking to be successful in the West? (Not that Psy is, but you know what I mean.)

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • James Lindop,

    Talking of impermanence.

    It gets interesting around 3:45.

    Kobe, Japan • Since Sep 2011 • 1 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    This is interesting: an Atlantic story that suggests there's more to 'Gangnam Style' that it might at first appear:

    Gangnam is a tony Seoul neighborhood, and Park's "Gangnam Style" video lampoons its self-importance and ostentatious wealth, with Psy playing a clownish caricature of a Gangnam man. That alone makes it practically operatic compared to most K-Pop. But I spoke with two regular observers of Korean culture to find out what I was missing, and it turns out that the video is rich with subtle references that, along with the song itself, suggest a subtext with a surprisingly subversive message about class and wealth in contemporary South Korean society. That message would be awfully mild by American standards -- this is no "Born in the U.S.A." -- but South Korea is a very different place, and it's a big deal that even this gentle social satire is breaking records on Korean pop charts long dominated by cotton candy.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22830 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to StepDoh,

    meta meat mate...

    I had left before they had settled on a suitable medium

    we can remember it for you, wholesale...
    Now you can store it in the clod!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7943 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    My current favourite is Fiona Apple’s

    Thanks Geoff. I was a big fan of Fiona Apple in her early phase. This sounds interesting.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to JacksonP,

    <3 Fiona Apple! I thought she had given up ridiculously long titles after When the Pawn Hits………

    I thought Extraordinary Machine was…extraordinary.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    Also she has an amazing voice...this cover breaks my heart every time.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP,

    This is new. I like the craziness of it all.

    ETA: Whoops. Wrong link.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to JacksonP,

    This is new. I like the craziness of it all.

    I'm not sure if I love it or hate it! I think I love it. There's nobody like her, that's fo sure.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Aston,

    Thanks for broadening my experience of Fiona Apple , love the jazzy style she does, her bluesy stuff doesn't quite touch me though . Lovely voice .
    First time i Heard her was he |Across the Universe cover . Beautifully vulnerable.
    Mind you I still think This one from Noel Bridgeman ( on a Mary Black album) is still my favorite.

    Northland • Since Nov 2006 • 510 posts Report Reply

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