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  • Paul Campbell,

    I have one nit to pick with the Audioculture article … The Enemy certainly played at the Cook back then – they were excellent, soooo much manic energy, the early Toy Love were a bit of a let down

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2623 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Patti Smith sings ‘A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall’ in accepting Bob Dylan’s Nobel Prize for him.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Hugh Wilson,

    I’ve vague memories of Doug Hood’s name being in the press late 90’s in the articles that used to accompany the Big Day Out. Don’t want to sound old but the early tours were great – things were less ‘robust’ I guess then, as I can recall me and some mates managing to wonder thru to the Offsprings dressing room and help ourselves to come of the many cold beers which were in there! Also remember the ubiquitous large topless sweaty guy in the mosh pit, who no one wanted to be near!

    Among the many anniversaries of late, its been 20 years since Endtroducing came out – Solid steel featured a tidy tribute mix which might be of interest to some:

    https://soundcloud.com/ninja-tune/solid-steel-radio-show-18112016-hour-1-mighty-atom-endtroducing-tribute-mix


    And Dinosaur Jr were never big on my radar, but some of my friends were fans. Here’s a review from a show they did in NYC recently – it takes a nice angle, and perhaps serves as a reminder about how shows can be great relief from everyday hullabaloo:
    http://www.mtv.com/news/2961817/dinosaur-jr-concert-nerds/

    Melbourne • Since Feb 2013 • 168 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    Though there are two photo references to it, Andrew Schmidt’s piece on Doug for Audioculture doesn’t seem to specifically mention the the 1984 Looney Tour – the above RIU ad*, by Chris Knox, shows just how extensive that tour was.

    The second picture shows the newspaper ads for the Windsor Castle during ‘Doug’s Days’ – heck I was on the door for a lot of it – most of the ads were done by Chris Knox, though I did a few too.

    and the third photo – by an unknown photographer – I’m thinking Murray Cammick, Kerry Brown, Jonathan Ganley or maybe even William West shows Doug setting up in the Gluepot (I think).

    Audioculture can feel free to include these in the story as well.

    * ‘borrowed’ from https://www.facebook.com/FlyingNunVault/

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Brown,

    So much dodgy in TheSpinoff's expose today of the High Court case between Avalanche City's David baxter and Matt Coleman from Let The People Speak. And the full judgement should be a 101 for artists and managers, But this paricrlar paragraph, number 267 was just weird:

    "Another payment of $20,000 was received by the defendants from Radio New Zealand and was on-paid to the defendants. The defendants claim this was income and therefore a commission of $4,000 should have been deducted by the defendants, but was not and is therefore owed to them…I accept Mrs Parson’s evidence that this was a “radio plugging” grant, paid out to cover costs.

    Excuse me? Surely a mistake. Payola at RNZ? Yeah, right. But, huh?

    Auckland • Since Mar 2013 • 137 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Brown,

    Auckland • Since Mar 2013 • 137 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Martin Brown,

    But look, the whole thing’s here

    and here in precis
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/87477178/court-rules-avalanche-city-singer-shortchanged-300000-by-manager
    Coleman sounds like a right tosser...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    and the third photo – by an unknown photographer – I’m thinking Murray Cammick, Kerry Brown, Jonathan Ganley or maybe even William West shows Doug setting up in the Gluepot (I think).

    I never think of the Gluepot as being that clean...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Brown, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    The precis doesn't really suffice. The whole doc is worth a read.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2013 • 137 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    shows Doug setting up in the Gluepot (I think).

    Not 100% sure it's the Gluepot as the old place had carpet up to near the front as I recall, plus there is a stairway on the back right. Did the Gluepot have that? Somebody reckoned it was in New Plymouth, somebody else said it was the Waikato Students' Union.

    Doug can't remember.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    ...can’t remember

    Me neither with 100% confidence, but the bits that stack up and resonate still scream Gluepot to my atrophying neurons...
    The proportions, layout/aspect and scale trigger all my gluey Gluepot ganglions:
    the silly wooden cage over the stage; the slats at the back; the slightly raised side strips on both sides; the window set up (with seldom seen views over Auckland); the curtains; the columns; the fire escape...
    ... The floor and ceiling I can not recall with any surety, and a smaller uncarpeted area strikes a muted thud of recollection, but m'lud 'may be leading the witness' and I've seen too many of these rooms, too fast, too long ago. I faintly recall one part was easier to roll stuff on than others - and I can't imagine them not having a reasonable dancefloor in that set up, there was a lot of room still behind the wooded area, narrowing back to the entrance - I remember the side fire/exit well - it came out by the police station or thereabouts at back of pub.
    But pub / hall design was pretty similar all over NZ then-abouts, so who knows - it may just remain a quantum mystery where we know the time (approximately) and can deduce the speed (relative to galactic centre) but not the position in space...
    - the past is a wave with no particle place to be...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Martin Brown,

    "Another payment of $20,000 was received by the defendants from Radio New Zealand and was on-paid to the defendants. The defendants claim this was income and therefore a commission of $4,000 should have been deducted by the defendants, but was not and is therefore owed to them…I accept Mrs Parson’s evidence that this was a “radio plugging” grant, paid out to cover costs.

    Excuse me? Surely a mistake. Payola at RNZ? Yeah, right. But, huh?

    My only real guess is that it's a mistake and that the decision should refer to NZ On Air, as it does above, and not Radio NZ.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Doug Hood, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    pretty sure it's not gluepot, floor was carpeted, i'd say waikato uni, wailing bongo rings a bell

    Kingsland • Since Oct 2009 • 44 posts Report Reply

  • Doug Hood,

    is that the matt coleman that worked for warners nz, an ozzie?

    Kingsland • Since Oct 2009 • 44 posts Report Reply

  • bob daktari, in reply to Doug Hood,

    yeah thats the Wailing Bongo at Waikato

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 540 posts Report Reply

  • Doug Hood,

    The guy up by the stage with long hair is Dave, bass player for Abel Tasmans

    Kingsland • Since Oct 2009 • 44 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Doug Hood,

    wailing bongo rings a bell

    and

    yeah thats the Wailing Bongo at Waikato

    ta guys
    We have consensus reality!
    I'll readjust my receptors accordingly...
    …and I note a piece of Letraset© tone screen over the tape deck…
    Remnants, artifacts, of now arcane technologies…

    … also a cracker lyric or band name going begging!
    wailing bongo rings a bell
    (I’m hearing Mother Superior jumped the gun
    to sing along to…)
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Martin Brown,

    The precis doesn't really suffice. The whole doc is worth a read.

    It really is. When I get a moment, I'll ask RNZ about the radio plugging grant.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Brown, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I'm sure you're right about the mis-naming. I should have assumed as much, but I'd had most of the bottle at that stage.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2013 • 137 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Russell Brown,

    NZ On Air

    Avalanche City (or people acting on their behalf) received funding from NZ On Air:

    October 2013 - up to $10,000
    http://www.nzonair.govt.nz/news/articles/makingtracks-october/
    (though this may be post-Coleman)

    February 2012 - up to $10,000
    http://thecorner.co.nz/2012/03/01/latest-nz-on-air-funding-decisions-february-2012/

    March 2011 - video grant $??
    http://www.muzic.net.nz/news/2219/nz-on-air-funding-news-and-march-results.html

    There may be others, but it is fairly public knowledge...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    There may be others, but it is fairly public knowledge…

    Indeed. The radio plugging grant seemed unusual, given that NZoA have long employed their own pluggers, but perhaps I'm missing something.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • bob daktari, in reply to Russell Brown,

    The 20K is listed as international promotion on the NZOA website, so if radio plugging was where the money went that would be for offshore radio activities, i.e. where NZOA didn't have pluggers

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 540 posts Report Reply

  • JT Brown, in reply to bob daktari,

    Exactly. RNZ just doesn't go there.

    Wellington • Since Dec 2016 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to bob daktari,

    Ah. That's what I was missing.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Mike O'Connell,

    For Chch folk or anyone passing through, those innovative young hipsters Henry and Henri (of Log Horn Breed) down at Log Recording studio have a
    Car Boot Sale and Market this Sunday.

    And here's Log Horn Breed (with Dean on vocals) to liven up ya Friday

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 385 posts Report Reply

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