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  • andrew llewellyn,

    (although I think it's Corrections, not Justice who do the collection)

    It was Justice in the 1990s, Corrections only deal with those convicted of crimes. Perhaps it's changed since.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report

  • andrew llewellyn,

    I thought celeb punishment was rehab.

    I thought it was appearing with Paul Henry & gig on Dancing with the Stars.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    It is community corrections, branch of Justice Department dealing with parole, community service and probation.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • dubmugga,

    (Especially in the case of Mikey, who lost his father when he was a kid -- the Roberts were nothing like a wealthy establishment household.)

    yeah well, i had to walk 7 miles to school barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways...:)

    just shits me that a judge will make decisions on credibilty as a bouncer at a nightclub does, solely on dress sense...

    ...on a side note, you ever notice that the dress code in clubs doesnt apply to the acts. more celebrity double standards ?

    but mr rent-a-goriila on the door sir, my hi top boots, russian leather jacket and designer hoodie cost 10 times more than your cheapo suit, so fucken what if i'm wearing trackpants. if i was missy elliot youd be holding the door open and kissing my arse on the way past...

    ...like DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM ???...oh go fuck yourself then

    heh

    the back of your mind • Since Nov 2006 • 257 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    To put it mildly, I think it's a risky assumption to declare that people convince judges because they come from "well-off, connected families".

    One might also snark some scepticism that there's much, if any, overlap between the judiciary and BFm's audience. Though I guess that's indulging in a classist and ageist stereotype myself. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Though I guess that's indulging in a classist and ageist stereotype myself. :)

    Which never happens around these parts does it?

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • bronwyn,

    Setting aside the issues about the HoS and it's lack of anything resembling journalism as we know it, I'm really surprised about level of judgement people are prepared to wield when it comes to parking tickets.

    No, driving a car doesn't excuse you from acting like a responsible member of society, but parking tickets are basically penalties for being disorganised - the only thing not getting parking tickets makes you is more organised (or lucky) than a person that gets them.

    I also concur re. dealing with the collections unit of the Ministry of Justice. They are not just difficult but actually unpleasant to deal with. I've never cried on the phone until I tried to sort out some of my (relatively small amount of) fines with them last year. On another occasion, one of them shouted at me. It's no surprise that a lot of people would rather ignore the issue than have to deal with the Call Centre of callousness.

    tamaki makaurau • Since Nov 2006 • 86 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    They are not just difficult but actually unpleasant to deal with.

    In certain cases,impossible as well. Any tickets via the Council is a different kettle of fish to tickets issued from the police.Trying to get information to correct your situation can prove a nightmare (as Mickey mentioned) and not because you are the incompetent one. The system has faults which is where from experience, I try not to judge without fact.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • 3410,

    O/T: Pixies fan? Free EP! ( Doolittle 20th Anniversary Live Sampler @320)

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I had a fine from a parking ticket (which I never saw originally, must have come off the window) from the city council a few years ago. They sent me bills and I phoned them to demand a copy of the ticket, which they couldn't provide for me. It then got passed on to the court system, who told me that they didn't have a copy of the ticket with the information on it, the City Council had that and by the way they were charging me an additional $60 now that the file had been passed to them in court costs.

    While on the phone with them they asked for my address and date of birth for what I thought was verification details. Then if I was employed, then my employer, their address, my position etc.

    It was only after I got off the phone that I realised that they'd wanted the information to add to my file so that they could get IRD to take it out of my salary. Came this close to contacting the Privacy Commissioner to complain that they'd collected the information illegally.

    I paid the $90, with still no idea about where and when I was supposedly illegally parked, just to get them off my back. Scary.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Russell Clarke,

    No, driving a car doesn't excuse you from acting like a responsible member of society, but parking tickets are basically penalties for being disorganised - the only thing not getting parking tickets makes you is more organised (or lucky) than a person that gets them.

    The reason you get a parking ticket is because you are inconveniencing other road users and/or pedestrians.

    The root cause for you putting yourself in that situation where you attract parking tickets, whether it is being disorganised, selfish or just plain inconsiderate, is largely irrelevant to those people handing out the tickets, as it should be.

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report

  • mark taslov,

    I paid the $90, with still no idea about where and when I was supposedly illegally parked, just to get them off my back. Scary.

    With a world population topping 6 billion, a time will come when it is necessary to ask yourself how competent these clowns are that can't even handle a population of 4 million with reasonable transparent standards..

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    The root cause for you putting yourself in that situation where you attract parking tickets, whether it is being disorganised, selfish or just plain inconsiderate, is largely irrelevant to those people handing out the tickets, as it should be.

    But still best kept separate in discussion from men who beat their partners, fraudsters and child rapists, are we agreed?

    It's not an excuse, but it does seem fair to note that parking around the university was a real problem for people who were earning little or (more often) nothing doing bFM shows, especially when the maximum time was abruptly halved to less than the length of any of the shows.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Russell Clarke,

    But still best kept separate in discussion from men who beat their partners, fraudsters and child rapists, are we agreed?

    That goes without saying...so I didn't say it.

    It's not an excuse, but it does seem fair to note that parking around the university was a real problem for people who were earning little or (more often) nothing doing bFM shows, especially when the maximum time was abruptly halved to less than the length of any of the shows.

    Can I suggest a bus?

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report

  • mark taslov,

    and or bicycles and portable hard drives? It's almost as if a case is being made that hosting a show on bfm makes DJs more worthy than the 20,000 students, staff and countless other listeners. Why not just learn to teleport like all the other messiahs.

    Segways.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report

  • dubmugga,

    But still best kept separate in discussion from men who beat their partners, fraudsters and child rapists, are we agreed?

    its a staircasing thing. today its parking tickets ,tomorrow it's necrophilia...

    ...where does it begin and where will it end ???

    zero tolerance:p

    the back of your mind • Since Nov 2006 • 257 posts Report

  • Russell Clarke,

    ,tomorrow it's necrophilia...

    Is that illegal?

    Oh...

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report

  • dubmugga,

    ...i think it still counts as rape if they're dead ?

    the back of your mind • Since Nov 2006 • 257 posts Report

  • Brickley Paiste,

    The really crappy aspect of that saga is that celebrity justice does exist. Veitch is a classic example. The pervasive granting of name suppression despite free speech and press. Etc. But parking fines? Fuck off.

    None of these really have anything to do with the actual point of the story

    None of these has...

    Since Mar 2009 • 164 posts Report

  • Michael Savidge,

    Corpse and rape humour...

    Any chance of keeping it inside your heads?

    Somewhere near Wellington… • Since Nov 2006 • 324 posts Report

  • Danielle,

    Michael FTW!

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report

  • Russell Clarke,

    Any chance of keeping it inside your heads?

    Yes you are absolutely right, and I am suitably contrite.

    Ooh, it rhymed.

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report

  • Matthew Poole,

    Can I suggest a bus?

    That was pretty much my first reaction. Other than, say, Britomart, University of Auckland has to be about the single best-served destination in the entire isthmus for public transport. By bus, by train, by ferry, you'd have to be crawling on bloodied stumps for it to be more than 15 minutes' walk from the termination of any CBD public transport route to the main campus. The majority of NZ Bus' CBD routes come right down Symonds St, for crying out loud.
    I know that Auckland has issues with public transport, but the University is the most-common destination for public transport users. Bar none. That's not by accident.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report

  • andin,

    Oh Stewie...

    ACTING LIKE A DANGEROUS COCK WITH AN ENGORGED SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A CAR IS NOT A FUNDAMENTAL, INALIENABLE, HUMAN RIGHT.

    Does that mean it's OK, if you are on your horse.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Does that mean it's OK, if you are astride your horse.

    No -- but but it's much easier to dodge a fool on a horse than the fools who get the road outside my house confused with SH1.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

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